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Re: Stand up !
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Only really useful if she's going to be in the movies! ![]() If she ever needs to get over an obstacle, she'll figure it out herself.
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Carry on with the treats when she does it of her own accord but you could also try luring her with a tasty treat, to stand on her back legs too. shell get it eventually. However be careful not to over do it as she may hurt her legs or hips doing so.
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[quote = dogpositivetraining] Erm... and why do you want to teach her to stand up on her back feet??? [quote]
Just because i think its quite clever and apart from sit, stay, down, come here, heel, leave all of which she is getting a good grasp of now i am stuck for things to teach her. |
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[QUOTE=Methical;247173][quote = dogpositivetraining] Erm... and why do you want to teach her to stand up on her back feet???
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It's fun, and will exercise Daisy both physically and mentally, plus keep her in great shape and build muscle. You should check out this trainer/entertainer. He trains his Collies, but also does tricks. Should keep both you and Daisy busy ![]() YouTube - zakgeorge21's Channel And check out this specific video: YouTube - Superstar And there's more: YouTube - Zak George Playlist. Have fun!
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You need to choose a word that you can use - one that does not sound like any other word she might know. Perhaps 'dance' or 'tiptoe'? When she does it of her own accord say the word and give her a treat. She will eventually associate the word and movement together as a good thing, and doing it on request will quickly follow.
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Thank you for the advice guys. I thought it may tturn out to be as simple as waiting for her to do it and then reward with a keyword but she doesnt do it very often so its going to take a while to get her used to it.
Im no expert but i class Diasy as being quite thick for her breed. She grasped basic commands well, and FAST aswell. Sit and Leave that is. Down and Stay took a few days but as we have tried to move onto things like roll over, play dead, be shy, bow ect ect. She just doesnt get it atall. We tried placing her in the position and then giving her lots of fuss. We tried waiting for her to do it herself and then lots of fuss but it just doesnt seem to stick. We tried upping the bounty and changing the standard training treats for cheese, ham, salami ect. Things that she has become a little obsessed with. Salami even has the power to get her to leave squirrels alone But as a rule, you will tell her a command she got right not 30seconds ago and she'll roll onto her back and demand belly rubs, then try 'down', then try a very rigid 'sit'. Then she'll bark once and then just resort to manic jumping and clawing trying to get the treat. I guess shes just a little too stupid to stick at it. Either that or too intelligent and realises that all this trick buissness is not worth the tiny bits of salami and cheese. |
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I too have taught both my dogs to jump up on command. I found that this helped get them out of the annoying habit of jumping up at everyone that moves. They now know that they should only jump up on command as they get a treat this way, and only get a telling off for jumping up at visitors, strangers, children etc. We also did the same with barking. We taught them to "speak" on command, which stopped them barking at other times. |
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In general for teaching tricks, there are 3 ways of getting behaviours; luring, shaping, and capturing. Luring is straightforward and is best used for simple behaviours. You've already done this for the basic commands, so you already know how this works. Shaping is best used when there is more than one position to the behaviour. For example you want to teach Daisy to play dead. Well this involves 3 positions; sit, down, and then lay, all in quick succession. It won't work if you put Daisy in the final position and then treat, this is not how dog's mind work. Well it's not how humans work either, when we learn to drive a car, we have a number of positions to put together, which end up being a single behaviour, but each position first needs to be shaped. So taking the example of play dead you would first lure Daisy in to the sit, then in to the down, then in to the lay. (If you can omit one step and get Daisy in to the down position, then lay, even better). Obviously you'll be using some tasty morsel to lure Daisy in to each position. To begin with just lure her in to each position of the behaviour, but don't use your verbal cue just yet, and don't treat until she has completed the behaviour in a fairly smooth way. When she is giving you the behaviour more or less as one movement, then start to use your verbal cue 'play dead', as she completes the behaviour, (not before), and use your voice to let her know she's got it right, plus of course a treat. Then move on to using your verbal cue to get the behaviour. As you progress, to really hone a trick, you would only give a treat and praise when it's done quickly. You want to make Daisy really work for her praise and treats. If these come too easy she just won't work as hard (in fact this applies to all training not just tricks). Capturing is what you've already been doing when she stands up on her back feet. But she won't get this unless your timing with the treat and praise are spot on. Hope this helps. P.S. (From your posts I imagine Daisy to be smart, you just need to be patient) ![]()
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