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Old 15-03-2013, 05:59 PM
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

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I DO FLOOR MY DOG IF HE MISBEHAVES.
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Ummm well what can I say......................

I would say to the OP, keep working with your pup, and with having a Rott I'd advise some classes when your baby is a bit older training and socializing with Rott's is a must, and being heavy handed in any way is not..
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

I have never had to floor my Mals, they're good dogs and trust I wouldn't be abusive to them and I think that goes a long way in having a good relationship with them. They have large teeth and even now if they have a nice juicy bone that I need to take I always offer a swap, it works well and I wouldn't risk an out of character bite with a truly high value treat. Any other food I'll just take but I wouldn't want any hint of aggression from them and respect the value of certain foods. In over eight years not once have they as much as growled so because they are respectful of me I give them the same courtesy.

If the school is Billericay Dog Training School (haven't read all posts) then they have dogs of all breeds and Lisa the behaviourist is excellent at showing us what our faults are and what makes the dog react. She pointed out things to me that I hadn't even considered, so I'd recommend a trip there.
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

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Most of his behaviour sounds like a normal puppy, however he is being protective of what he sees as his, our rotti is now just over 2yrs old and from 5 weeks when we got him( yes i know thats too early ) we have held onto his toys/treats as hes chewed on them so he is used to our hands around his mouth and used to us taking things off him.
He does turn his head away sometimes so we cant get at whats in his mouth BUT i put my hand in his mouth and retrieve whatever it is, he does not growl or bite, we are in charge not him.
The training class wouldnt be just for rotti's at Billericay would it?
I also go to a socializing training class whereby he is taught how to behave in a pack environment ( these classes do not sit well with some people ) however they work for him and us and he is brilliant with children and other dogs and to get this out of the way I DO FLOOR MY DOG IF HE MISBEHAVES.
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You mean hit him?
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You mean hit him?
I think he means the world famous and totally aggression stirring alpha roll, actually. Of course I could be wrong.
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

I think you need to train a pup, not turn everything into a fight. If you keep backing him into a `do what I say` situation, you simply teach him that you are an enemy.
Try swaps when he has something you want back. That way he learns doing what you want is a Good Thing.
And ask someone to remove your food next time you eat. So you know just how that feels?
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Brock was the same - honestly, it was a complete nightmare...he got it eventually, but it wasn't a few days that you could see results in, but weeks and weeks.

He nipped playfully constantly, he bit and occasionally broke skin if you tried to take things off him, he had little snarly bitey tantrums if you wouldn't let him do something he wanted to or if you had to pick him up and carried him. I spent the first three puppy training classes with him gnawing on my leg because I wouldn't let him go and play with the other puppies.

That's not what he's like now, he very gradually got better and better and by about five months old you could see his more adult behaviours kicking in and now he'll drop anything on command, even stolen food, he's had quite a bit of medical treatment and both his vet and the specialist have commented on how obliging he is when he's being poked and prodded and other than the odd gentle playful nibble when he's really excited - he doesn't mouth at all.

Here's a link to a Rottweiler forum Puppy Development - Rottweiler Discussion Forums have a read through the stickies - you'll notice there is one called taming the monster in your puppy, lol. There's loads of threads and a whole section about puppy aggression and loads of experienced Rottweiler owners (I'm not, he's not my first dog, but he is my first rottie) saying, yep, completely normal - you have a rottie puppy otherwise known as a land shark.
Hold on this in NOT how a normal well socialised puppy should be, Rottweiler or not, and I for one wouldn't want you giving people the impression thats how Rotts should be!! If brought from a good breeder you pup should already have bite inhibition and should have no problem with being picked up or having things taken off it! Bitey tantrums are NOT normal for Rott pups!! I am not a first time Rott owner and it's not completely normal behaviour!! Seriously!!
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

How much is the pup being left alone when you work?

Just wondering if he is getting all the human socialisation and interaction needed at this young age.

Hearing of owners flooring dogs is slightly worrying. I hope "flooring" is just a training term I perhaps am not familiar with.
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

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Most of his behaviour sounds like a normal puppy, however he is being protective of what he sees as his, our rotti is now just over 2yrs old and from 5 weeks when we got him( yes i know thats too early ) we have held onto his toys/treats as hes chewed on them so he is used to our hands around his mouth and used to us taking things off him.
He does turn his head away sometimes so we cant get at whats in his mouth BUT i put my hand in his mouth and retrieve whatever it is, he does not growl or bite, we are in charge not him.
The training class wouldnt be just for rotti's at Billericay would it?
I also go to a socializing training class whereby he is taught how to behave in a pack environment ( these classes do not sit well with some people ) however they work for him and us and he is brilliant with children and other dogs and to get this out of the way I DO FLOOR MY DOG IF HE MISBEHAVES.
Good luck.
What an idiot. I'd like to see you try and 'floor' my dog - you'd be missing a hand. Don't you comprehend that this is abuse? So glad people like you are becoming the minority.
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

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Hold on this in NOT how a normal well socialised puppy should be, Rottweiler or not, and I for one wouldn't want you giving people the impression thats how Rotts should be!! If brought from a good breeder you pup should already have bite inhibition and should have no problem with being picked up or having things taken off it! Bitey tantrums are NOT normal for Rott pups!! I am not a first time Rott owner and it's not completely normal behaviour!! Seriously!!
Oh I don't think that's how they should be... but it is common enough that lots of other people seem to have similar issues - of course a breed specific forum is going to be skewed because people will post in it precisely because they're having a problem.

I also didn't say it wasn't a problem, just that working with him the right way they were soon sorted.

Brock's from a litter of 9 - he never resource guarded with his food because his breeder made sure it was never a free for all, but yes we had a few issues with it when he'd found something high value that he suspected (usually rightly) that he wasn't going to get to keep. It was worse because they were unexpected items - who knew hair bobbles were high value? lol A few weeks of swapping things for treats and now he'll happily give you anything at all was all I was trying to say.

The bitey tantrums were absolutely the same as when a toddler is kicking and screaming because they're not being allowed to do what they want, picking him up wasn't the issue, it was that he wanted to walk and I wanted to carry him.

The forum I linked to does seem to see it as normal - I was quoting that, what I was trying to get across is that these are fairly common issues, not that it was desirable or acceptable and that there are very successful positive reinforcement ways of dealing with things like resource guarding.
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Re: 13 week old Rottweiler puppy - 2 nasty bites.

Meezey,Malmum,Wiz201 you seem to have read into my post what you wanted and took no notice of the fact that my dog is not aggressive does not bite or growl at us and is a well behaved and loved member of our family, he is NOT hit, smacked or threatened and as i said the training methods work for us and him.
Im sure 8 stone of rottie would protest if we abused him and what a stupid suggestion i would try and floor someone elses dog!!!!
We all go to training schools that have different methods, everyone will have there own opinions of what they believe to be correct, if that was the case there would only be 1 training school and 1 way of training.
At the end of the day Rotties need training, socializing and company.
If anyone thinks my dogs abused your welcome to come and visit.
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