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Old 04-02-2009, 06:47 PM
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Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets

i put this in the health section but thought it was better here

Just back from vets, and they have given gizmo selgian 8kg tablets to help ease his seperation anxiety, anyones dogs have these do they work?
He is just trying them for a week to see if they help

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Re: Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets

Hi. Never heard of them, what have you tried behaviourally?
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Hi. Never heard of them, what have you tried behaviourally?
since having him we have did the leaving him in his crate for short peroids of time, not talking to him before or afterwards etc. we still do this, he is only on his own up to two hours a day max and we stick to doing that.

any other things we can do?
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Re: Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets

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since having him we have did the leaving him in his crate for short peroids of time, not talking to him before or afterwards etc. we still do this, he is only on his own up to two hours a day max and we stick to doing that.

any other things we can do?
Hello,

I have adopted a Greyhound some weeks ago. She has never been left alone before and suffers from a strong separation anxiety. I am a vet myself but I don't believe any tablets can help in more severe cases like my dog's.
I would strongly recommend to read a book by Jan Fennell 'The Dog Listener' (if you have not read it before). She uses 'Amichien bonding technique' which I have adopted with some very good results. We are up to 1 and 1/2 hours now with Hela. Some people say it is slightly dated but it has helped me a lot in the past.

Things that I do:
1. Always (with no exeptions) go first through the doors.
2. When I first meet my dog after separation, eg in the morning I ignore it for 5 minutes - '5 minutes rule' (quite hard to do though)
3. Eat a cookie/apple in front of my dog before I feed it.
4. If my dog doesn't want to go back to me on a walk I turn around and go in the opposite direction - works really well.
5. The most important for me - always have some dog treats in my pockets and praise the dog for any good things it does when asked for. Never enough of it.

It is important to establish a strong leadership and take the responsibility for the 'pack' of the dogs shoulders. Only then it can relax and wait for you to make decisions.

I hope it will be of some help... (Forgive some spelling mistakes - English is not my native language) All the best with your dog.
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Re: Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets

Hi my dog had SA very bad eating my house breaking out of the crate damaging his nose in the meantime this can be sorted my dog is great only had him 4 months but lots of work done right will sort this out, walking through the door first my opinion is a myth thats a training issue not SA in eyes my dogs go in front of me they sit on the sofa but they no they are lower than me and they no there place never tried the tablet hope they work if not come back
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Hi my dog had SA very bad eating my house breaking out of the crate damaging his nose in the meantime this can be sorted my dog is great only had him 4 months but lots of work done right will sort this out, walking through the door first my opinion is a myth thats a training issue not SA in eyes my dogs go in front of me they sit on the sofa but they no they are lower than me and they no there place never tried the tablet hope they work if not come back
Hi,

This sound like a very good progress to me. It is inteersting what you say about the door. I heard that before. Could you give me some examlpes of what you have been doing. What is the principle of you method/way?
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This sound like a very good progress to me. It is inteersting what you say about the door. I heard that before. Could you give me some examlpes of what you have been doing. What is the principle of you method/way?
Thanks
Anna
I dont really have examples, im tranining as a behaviourist and i have always made my dogs wait ie before leaving the house and on returning they do wait to come in the house but when leaving i open the door and i dont mind them going first but im in control which is the important matter here if your dog takes the p***s and drags you all over and as no respect for you as leader then thats diffrent but my dogs do respece me and respect his earnt, they are a member of the family and i love my dogs so much as i dont have children and they are my live so i am soft with them but most important is they no there position in the pack and they are happy dogs i may say so my self, treating a dog like a baby and talking to them like babys to me is somthing i will never do they are dogs and they are happy.
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Re: Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets

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Hello,

I have adopted a Greyhound some weeks ago. She has never been left alone before and suffers from a strong separation anxiety. I am a vet myself but I don't believe any tablets can help in more severe cases like my dog's.
I would strongly recommend to read a book by Jan Fennell 'The Dog Listener' (if you have not read it before). She uses 'Amichien bonding technique' which I have adopted with some very good results. We are up to 1 and 1/2 hours now with Hela. Some people say it is slightly dated but it has helped me a lot in the past.

Things that I do:
1. Always (with no exeptions) go first through the doors.
2. When I first meet my dog after separation, eg in the morning I ignore it for 5 minutes - '5 minutes rule' (quite hard to do though)
3. Eat a cookie/apple in front of my dog before I feed it.
4. If my dog doesn't want to go back to me on a walk I turn around and go in the opposite direction - works really well.
5. The most important for me - always have some dog treats in my pockets and praise the dog for any good things it does when asked for. Never enough of it.

It is important to establish a strong leadership and take the responsibility for the 'pack' of the dogs shoulders. Only then it can relax and wait for you to make decisions.

I hope it will be of some help... (Forgive some spelling mistakes - English is not my native language) All the best with your dog.
Can i also say the recall and not coming back turning your back and walking the other way is what i do, i do have plenty treats but i dont always reward with treats as i have found that if they come without treats they repect you either way, but praising your dog i agree you can never give to much praise x
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Re: Separation anxiety- Selgian tablets

I would honestly worry about giving tablets to ease separation anxiety I would have thought that they may contain a sedative, since I cannot imagine anything else working.

This is behavioral, and if you have insurance for your dog, your vet could have referred you to a behaviourist who could help to address this common problem.

There are lots of things that you can try with your dog, such as leaving him for very short periods, such as leaving him in one room, while going into another, and gradually increasing the time. Leaving a radio on can help, and trying a DAPs infuser.

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Re: Seperation anxiety- Selgian tablets - reply

Hi These SSRI tablets are like Prozac but they will not treat the cause for the separation issues which are to do with owner-attachment and stress.
Dogs need to be on them for three months and they do not replace necessary and more important behavioural treatment.
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