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Old 05-07-2011, 08:19 PM
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Dumb question???? Sorry

Sorry to post such a silly question but here it is anyway .....................

We went to a dog show recently to observe and found out that only 'entire'? dogs/bitches etc are able to be show dogs. Well - we first of all wonder why?? And secondly, our Harvey has just been done (yesterday) and we don't honestly think that anyone would know the difference anyway?? It is not that we are planning to show - it was something we thought about but have decided not to (and now have no choice anyway) - but we are just curious as to how the whole 'show' thing works?? Thanks and huge apologies for what will seem a very silly question to most of you i'm sure !!
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

not a silly question, i was wondering the same thing
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:31 PM
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

He he - let's hope someone comes along and enlightens us then??? - really curious and want to find out more.
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

a judge should feel two testicles so it would be very clear to a judge if it only had one, or none.
Its harder with females to tell.
and dogs that have been neautered can actually be shown
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

i havent been involved in showing for a great number of years for reasons that are unimportant here.... but....

in my day....it was important for the dogs to be entire for breeding possibilities from a winning line of a certain breed. if you had a show champion it would naturally follow that other breeders would want to investigate the possibility of his genes being passed on to the next litter of puppies. females need to be in full breeding condition for the same reasons.

dunno if this has changed...but i suspect this is still one of the main reasons for show animals to be entire.
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

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i havent been involved in showing for a great number of years for reasons that are unimportant here.... but....

in my day....it was important for the dogs to be entire for breeding possibilities from a winning line of a certain breed. if you had a show champion it would naturally follow that other breeders would want to investigate the possibility of his genes being passed on to the next litter of puppies. females need to be in full breeding condition for the same reasons.

dunno if this has changed...but i suspect this is still one of the main reasons for show animals to be entire.
True thats what its about.

But saying that what if someone didnt want to breed from their bitch? isnt it better to get her spayed and prevent unwanted pups?

I have shown a spayed bitch and won well with her, did anyone know? no they didnt
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

All very interesting!!! So do you think that I would still be able to show my pup even though he's been 'done' And yes I agree about bitches being spayed to avoid unwanted litters - that surely has to be a good thing?? We have had Harvey 'done because we have no plans of breeding from him, and I do understand that people may want to continue 'lines' etc., but surely he shouldn't be excluded from showing just because he can't breed? Because of the circumstances of acquiring Harvey we struggled to find out whether the intention was to breed from him or not but in the end we had to make a decision and this is the one we made (right or wrong) but it seems a shame that he is now excluded from shows as everyone seems to think he is a handsome chappie ( and I have to agree!!).
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

firstly what kind of shows do you mean?fun, companion, open or champ?


secondly yes they will definitely notice the absence of testicles


but as others have said it is permitted to show dogs that have been neutered you just have to have a note from the KC
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Re: Dumb question???? Sorry

show regulations

3. No act or operation which alters the natural conformation of a dog or any
part thereof may be performed except:-
(a) Operations certified to the satisfaction of the General Committee.
(b) The removal of dew claws of any breed.
(c) Operations to prevent breeding provided that such operations are
notified to the Kennel Club before neutered dogs are shown.
Nor must anything be done calculated to in the opinion of the General
Committee to deceive.
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show regulations

3. No act or operation which alters the natural conformation of a dog or any
part thereof may be performed except:-
(a) Operations certified to the satisfaction of the General Committee.
(b) The removal of dew claws of any breed.
(c) Operations to prevent breeding provided that such operations are
notified to the Kennel Club before neutered dogs are shown.
Nor must anything be done calculated to in the opinion of the General
Committee to deceive.
Sorry - finding this hard to 'get to grips with' - does this mean that he can be shown but only if I notify the KC first??
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