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Old 23-07-2008, 04:11 PM
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Re: dangerous to dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I stand by my last statement and if it makes me a bad pet owner then fine BUT my animals always have and always will have garlic until I am told otherwise by my vet
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Old 23-07-2008, 04:58 PM
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my dogs always finish up our spag bol with loads of garlic and onions in,they havent ended up on their backs with their legs in the air!
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given choices, i'd rather trust the vets
The same vets that recommend Hill's?
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Old 23-07-2008, 11:58 PM
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Re: dangerous to dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think if you gave them bulb after bulb then yeah they'd get very ill indeed, but then again so would a human.

Someone in the USA has patented a dog breath ameliorator,

To quote The New York Times 25th March 2002

"So Ms. Lewandowski did some experimenting with her dogs to tease out the crucial ingredients. She fed them ground beef sautéed in olive oil and onions, beef patties broiled with sage and hamburger cooked in canned tomatoes (on the theory that tomatoes, renowned for their ability to soak off skunk spray, might also freshen breath).

She found no discernible improvement in the dogs' breath, however. Then she tried sprinkling the ground beef with garlic powder. And voilà.

Ms. Lewandowski says she has confirmed her results over several years in about 30 dogs. A dose of garlic powder sprinkled on a meal leaves a pet's breath fresh for up to 72 hours, she said.

She cautions that it is important to have the appropriate dosage"

Appropriate dosage, meaning 1/2 clove per 10lb's of dogs body weight, as she consulted Mary L Brennan DVM.
I've scoured the internet for how much is too much garlic and the general concencous seems to be that a dog would have to eat an awful lot of garlic before it became as ill as if it'd eaten a cup full of chopped onion.

I did read an interesting paper and then my toddler decided to switch off the PC where a dog had eaten rasins, garlic and some other things, the poison it died from was from raisins, the vets ruled out the garlic as the poison. I'll try to find the link again from my history but not doing it this minute.

Eola - you haven't been giving anyone strange coffee have you?
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lets just say afta my ex'es visit i did this quick smart >> lol.
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Re: dangerous to dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some foods dogs should not eat and could be deadly-:

Grapes and Raisins: Grapes and raisins can cause kidney failure in dogs. As little as a single serving of raisins can kill a dog.
Onions: Onions destroy red blood cells and can cause anemia.
Chocolate: Chocolate can cause seizures, coma and death. Baker’s chocolate is the most dangerous. A dog can consume milk chocolate and appear to be fine because it is not as concentrated, but it is still dangerous.
Coffee, Coffee grounds, tea and tea bags: Drinks/foods containing caffeine cause many of the same symptoms chocolate causes
Macadamia Nuts and Walnuts: Macadamia nuts can cause weakness, muscle tremor and paralysis. Limit all other nuts as they are not good for dogs in general, their high phosphorous content is said to possibly lead to bladder stones. Exception to this rule seems to be PEANUT BUTTER. However- always use Salt/Sugar free ORGANIC Peanut butter (sugar encourages cancer growth) free . Use only ORGANIC peanut butter as regular peanut butter has lots of toxins and is full of pesticides!
Animal fat and fried foods: Excessive fat can cause pancreatitis.
Bones: Cooked bones can splinter and damage a dog’s internal organs. Raw Bone should always be supervised as a piece can always break off and cause problems. Try frozen oxtails or frozen knuckle bones then take the bone away before the dog can swallow a final small piece whole. It's a good natural way to clean teeth too.
Tomatoes: Tomatoes can cause tremors and heart arrhythmias. Tomato plants and the most toxic, but tomatoes themselves are also unsafe.
Avocados: The fruit, pit and plant are all toxic. They can cause difficulty breathing and fluid accumulation in the chest, abdomen and heart.
Nutmeg: Nutmeg can cause tremors, seizures and death
Apples, Cherries, Peaches PITS and similar fruit are great for your dog - HOWEVER, the seeds of these fruits contain cyanide, which is poisonous to dogs as well as humans. Unlike humans, dogs do not know to stop eating at the core/pit and easily ingest them. It can also become lodged in the intestines and kill the dog in 24 hours with no warning.
Raw eggs: Raw eggs can cause salmonella poisoning in dogs. Dogs have a shorter digestive tract than humans and are not as likely to suffer from food poisoning, but it is still possible. BEST to use ORGANIC EGGS if you do raw. Scrambled lightly is best!
Salt: Excessive salt intake can cause kidney problems.

Mushrooms: Can be deadly- never let your pets chew on mushrooms found in your yard. Only safe "food" mushrooms are shitaki, maitake and reishi.

Xylitol: even a small amount can cause liver failure and death. Read more at here and in this article at About.com.

Sugar and Corn Syrups. EVEN ORGANIC IS BAD! (this does not include Honey or Molasses though they should only be in small amounts and never for cancer dogs)
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Some foods dogs should not eat and could be deadly-:

Raw eggs: Raw eggs can cause salmonella poisoning in dogs. Dogs have a shorter digestive tract than humans and are not as likely to suffer from food poisoning, but it is still possible. BEST to use ORGANIC EGGS if you do raw. Scrambled lightly is best!
In the UK and Europe (EU member states) new legislation this Feb for Salmonella National Control Programme -
"The aim of the NCP is to further reduce the levels, in laying flocks, of the two most important types of Salmonella for human health, Salmonella Enteritidis (SE) and Salmonella Typhimurium (ST) by 10% each year for the next three years from a baseline established following a survey in 2006.

In this survey, UK levels of SE and ST were found to be among the lowest of the major egg producing Member States, with SE or ST present on 8% of laying flock holdings.

From today, keepers of laying flocks will be required to follow a sampling and testing programme set out in the NCP to establish the prevalence of Salmonella on-farm.

The NCP requires that from 2009, eggs from flocks confirmed to be infected with SE or ST cannot appear as fresh shell eggs at retail. Such eggs may not be used for human consumption unless treated to eliminate Salmonella, i.e. heat treated or pasteurised. " (Defra News releases)

So dogs should be safe with raw eggs.
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