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Old 21-11-2009, 09:41 AM
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Re: raw meat????????

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if she is being sick i would worry about bacteria in raw meat causing problems
Bacteria is raw meat desn't affect animals like us humans. A dog is a meat eatter, and if living in the wild would hunt animals to feed from.

I feel cans are full of rubbish with preservs and addidtives etc. I wouldn't eat things like that, so I don't think my dog should either.
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Re: raw meat????????

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Bacteria is raw meat desn't affect animals like us humans. A dog is a meat eatter, and if living in the wild would hunt animals to feed from.

I feel cans are full of rubbish with preservs and addidtives etc. I wouldn't eat things like that, so I don't think my dog should either.
Humans are meat eater too!

Raw food diets aren't balanced, and lead to nutritional problems
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Re: raw meat????????

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Humans are meat eater too!

Raw food diets aren't balanced, and lead to nutritional problems
Sorry have to disagree on that one.
I know many raw feeders and also choose this way to feed my own dog.
Done correctly it is probs the healthiest way to feed.
I see many a dog with health problems due to bad diet and all of those are fed comercial food.
We as humans are omnivores and cook our meat a dog if in the wild would prob scavenge so have a very varied diet of raw and rotton food.
Their nutritional requirement is different to us and therefore the way we feed is different u cannot compare them to a human.
Raw feeders tend to freeze and defrost all meat as this kills any of the real nasty bugs...balancing is usually done over days rather than per meal.
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Old 21-11-2009, 12:09 PM
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Humans are meat eater too!

Raw food diets aren't balanced, and lead to nutritional problems
Nonsense! I've been raw feeding my working dogs for years and they're gleaming. Until this month I hadn't bought any commercial junk food in about 10 years LOL

Raw diets are the food dogs are designed to eat, so of course it's good for them. "Balanced" is a bit of a pet food company myth, it has no bearing on real food. For example, is every meal you eat (or give to your child) "100% complete and balanced", or do you just feed a variety of foods and let nature find its balance over time, like everyone else?

Why do you view dogs any differently? The answer likely lies in years of pet food manufacturers' propaganda. Raw food is the best thing to feed a dog, cat or ferret. Crunching up raw meaty bones (not marrow bones) is excellent for the teeth.

Commercial food on the other hand builds up in the oral cavity facilitating the development of periodontal disease. The grains (an unnatural food for dogs) lead to insulin spikes and an overworked pancreas which has to push out amylase and other such enzymes to digest the unnatural starches and sugars. This often leads to pancreatitis and diabetes.

In short, there's nothing natural or correct about feeding grains and dehydrated biscuits. But for some reason the public has managed to believe that in the few short years since commercial manufacturers have been producing biscuits and other stuff, they offer the "only" way to properly feed a dog. It's all nonsense.

To the OP, I'm very glad your DDB enjoys raw food. Just be careful not to stick to mince only as it's high in phosphorous and low in calcium. Bones are the calcium required, but marrow bones are a no-no. Yes I know they're popular but they are too large and heavy, even for big breeds. They are the perfect size and shape - especially if sawn by the butcher - to act as a lever to snap the teeth!

The only golden rule you need to remember with raw feeding is variety - and in what you DO feed, make sure it's pieces of raw MEATY bone as whole as possible (i.e. looks as much like the animal it came from as much as possible). That means, a whole rabbit is better than half a chicken, which is better than a rack of ribs alone, which is better than just mince etc.

Apart from that, go nuts and experiment.
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Re: raw meat????????

Sounds like a lot of people are keen on it...
Whats your reasoning against cooking the meat? Then youv killed any bacteria or parasites.
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Re: raw meat????????

A lot of people feeding raw also include fruit and vegetables to balance the diet.

I'm fairly new to it, but my dogs get raw meat and tripe, chicken wings/carcasses and tripe strips and occasionally pilchards in tomato sauce. Nimrod (who we lost recently) had a skin allergy, but once we changed to raw she improved drastically. Our other dogs have great coats and energy. I love it!

Chicken should never be cooked as the bones splinter.
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Raw food diets aren't balanced, and lead to nutritional problems
Sorry was half asleep when I wrote that. Basically Im saying if we ate raw meat we would be ill, when a dog eats raw meat it doesn't affect them. Yes we are Meat eatters, but Dogs in the wild are purely meat eatters and raw meat at that. We don't have to be a meat eatter.

Ive seen a DDB on a tinned food diet and a DDB on a raw meat diet... I bought my pup from the raw meat diet dog, the difference in bitches was amazing. The Bitches coat was gleeming, teeth were pearly white and nice smelling breath (if that can happen), and general look of dog was definatly better!
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Re: raw meat????????

dogs and humans are actually omnivores, both are designed to scavenge and eat whatever they can find.

my Gypsy was such a fussy eater as a pup she was probably about a year and a bit when we changed to raw and now she eats everything.

mu youngest pup Echo is now a year and was on raw from the day after we got her at 8 weeks.

all my girls get there meet bones carcases frozen they seem to prefer them like that.

the proteins in dry dog foods are for the most part artificially made or or possessed,
proteins in raw is as it is nothing has been done to it.

i have seen no ill effect in my girls, their poos are smaller so i know that they are getting more from there food as they are producing less wast.
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Re: raw meat????????

I feed Mika on raw meat. Dante doesn't like it raw - he turns his nose up at it - think its the smell - silly boy - lol so in the microwave for him it goes to be cooked for 1 minute lol

So yeah nothing wrong with giving a dog raw meat IMO. How else do you suppose wild animals survived?
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Re: raw meat????????

Mine gets Raw meat with steamed veg and fruit and this has been great for her skin allergies
Today she is having Ox liver with steamed carrots,broccoli and turnip. odd times she will also have cooked potatoe in with it, she is often having a better tea that i do..i dont do the chicken wings though, i did try her on them but she would not chew them up enough and a few hours later she would bring up the whole bones
It's a brilliant way to feed your dog

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