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Old 12-10-2009, 01:08 PM
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Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

Hey, its me again! sorry!

Just back from the vets after the F'man had his 2nd jabs and we asked the vet about his eyes, 2 weeks ago when another vet at the same practice looked at the and said they were fine.
This time, the owner of the practice shone a bright light into his eyes and said he didn't think any of the hair around his eyes were making them weep.

(he is a jrt x chi) his mum being the jrt (rough coated) so he takes after her in a lot of ways with his fur being hairy!!

His eyes though have a fair bit of fur around them, and 2 weeks ago a friend who is a dog groomer trimmed it so that it was irritating him, I think in the 2 weeks it has grown back and its making his eyes look bad again.

The vet today has said he thinks its Conjuctavitus, now i'm no expert but our cat when she was a kitten suffered from it, myself and my partner have suffered from it and you get green gunky stuff and its sticky and its hard to open your eyes.

F'man has none of this!!

So i've said ok we'll get the ointment, we go out to pay (the 2nd jab was paid for at the time of the 1st one) so all we had to pay for was his flea treatment and this ointment. I say "how much" I get £18.00'odd WHAT!!!!

The single Frontline dose is £4.85 and the eye ointment wait for it! £12.00!!!!!!!!! I didn't have that much with me so we went away without it.

Is this vet just trying to make us pay for things that we don't need???

Please look at the picture of his eyes and tell me what you think????

This picture being today (2 weeks after his hair being trimmed)



This picture (2 hours after his hair being trimmed)




I'm very sorry for such a long post, I also had to rant at the same time lol

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Old 12-10-2009, 01:15 PM
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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

So he has no ingrowing eyelashes? and no little lumps on the inside of his lids?

I think conjunctivitis developes into green gunky stuff if left a bit too long, but I dont think its there at the begining I may be wrong?

just read this.

Problems such as conjunctivitis in dog and inflammation of the membrane that covers the inside of the eyelids and the exterior part of the visible part of the eye, are caused by infections, or from accidental lesion because of a scratch or by something getting into the dogs eyes. The symptoms of conjunctivitis are reddening of the eye, tearing, blinking and secretions. A dog's cornea can also get damaged if the dog does not have enough tears or if they extend over the whole external surface of the eye. Dry eyes in a dog will look kind of dull and sticky, and it causes the dog pain. If the problem is in the cornea of the eye, it will allow the tears to go in and the dog's eyes will look kind of shadowy and bluish. Cataracts are hereditary in the case of some breeds; although the truth is that any breed is able to get them. In many cases when a dog has cataracts it means he has diabetes mellitus. Sicknesses that affect the eyes such as lesions of the optic nerve can occasionally cause
blindness, even when the aspect of the eye looks completely normal. Believe it or not, dogs that have lost their sight manage themselves pretty well because their smelling and hearing senses increase tremendously. Blindness in dogs does not mean the end of the dog's life.
Taking care of a dog eyes
If your dog's eyes are having problems it's likely the veterinarian will want you to apply eye drops in the dog's eyes. To do this, grab the dog by the chin firmly with one hand. Put the eye drops upside down and place your thumb on one end and your index finger on the other end. Finally put the eye drops into the dog's eyes and place your other three free fingers on the dog's head. If you need to apply cream onto your dog's eyes, put a small amount on your clean finger and very carefully spread it along the surface of the dog's internal eyelid. If the dog's eyes emit secretions, you need to wash it out with an abundant amount of warm water with a small amount of salt. You should put about one teaspoon of salt for every half liter of water. A dog that is having eye problems needs to be protected from an excess amount of light, sun, strong currents of air, and you must also make sure the dog does not get into any water (the pool, a river, etc). If your dog constantly scratches at his eyes, ask your veterinarian about your options on how to solve this problem. There are also special contact lenses for dogs that serve as a transparent band-aid allowing the dog's eye to heal.


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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

I'm by no means an expert but to me it just looks like sleep . I now give Murphy cooled boiled water instead of tap water after reading that it helps with tear staining (no idea how but thought it was worth a try and could be a placebo affect but I think its helped)
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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

Hi Mo,

Thanks for posting that.

Nope there are no ingrowing hairs, lumps or bumps, the vet checked them over and just said he thinks they are inflamed and that its conjuntavtis (sp?)

He has been walking around a few times and putting his paws up as if to touch them but we told the vet this and he kind of poo'poo'd it???
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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

Our willow had the littlest of lumps under her top eye lid, you could hardly see it it was so small similar to a wart, we had it removed, because it was irritating her eye really bad, she is fantastic now,

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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

If it was me I would have paid the £12 for the ointment. Eyes are so important to look after and imo the ointment may be needed. I would not play about with eyes if it was my dog
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Old 12-10-2009, 01:58 PM
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If it was me I would have paid the £12 for the ointment. Eyes are so important to look after and imo the ointment may be needed. I would not play about with eyes if it was my dog
Have you looked at the picture of his eyes??

If this was your dog would you think he had conjunctavitus????

I'm sorry but I think we might have a vet who thinks he can charge the earth for things that are not needed.

I agree with you that eyes are VERY important but at the end of the day we know our own dog, but we were asking the opinions of other people who are not involved.

This vet has done the same to me in the past with our cats. Everytime we go there I request we don't see him, and on this occasion I did the same but he was the only vet on duty so we had no other choice. Guess what this is the situation we are now in!!
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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

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Have you looked at the picture of his eyes??

If this was your dog would you think he had conjunctavitus????

I'm sorry but I think we might have a vet who thinks he can charge the earth for things that are not needed.

I agree with you that eyes are VERY important but at the end of the day we know our own dog, but we were asking the opinions of other people who are not involved.

This vet has done the same to me in the past with our cats. Everytime we go there I request we don't see him, and on this occasion I did the same but he was the only vet on duty so we had no other choice. Guess what this is the situation we are now in!!
Oh Knickers in a twist I see LOL Yes I did look at the pic but I am no Vet so no opinion as to is it or is it not Conjunctivitis(sp)
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Re: Eyes - Your opinion - RANT!!! Long post!!

If you were worried about his eyes enough to ask the vet then why not go with what he recommends?

If he has looked and with his expertise said that they were inflammed then surely you would have gone with the recommended treatment for a measly £12

Why post pics and ask what people think when you have already been told by a qualified Vet. An expert eye looking at him in the flesh is going to be far more accurate than a photo on here.

If Freddie was mine I would be treating those eyes straight away
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:10 PM
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Oh Knickers in a twist I see LOL Yes I did look at the pic but I am no Vet so no opinion as to is it or is it not Conjunctivitis(sp)
Nope knickers aren't in a twist
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