Hi Sue,

We are on a raw diet. We have been for about a week now.

Regrets? That we never knew about it sooner!

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Wonderful news.

The trouble is that the majority of dog food companies are BUSINESSES at the end of the day and those producing kibble diets use the "waste products" of the human food market. Just look at who owns whom:

James Wellbeloved - bought out years ago by Royal Canine who were later bought out by Pedigree - who owns Pedigree? MARS.

The Purina, Friskies, Bakers range of dog foods - who owns Purina? NESTLE.

The Hill's Science Plan range of foods - who owns Hills Pet Nutrition? COLEGATE-PALMOLIVE.

Eukanuba, Iams? PROCTOR & GAMBLE.

It is thought that 80% of the World's pet-food market is owned by just these 4 companies.

The marketing teams were very clever in promoting the "convenience" aspect of feeding kibble diets and by doing so they have cornered the market and subsequently lined the pockets of many vets! By reverting to a natural diet your dog will be forever grateful and healthy. The beauty about the Natural Instinct range of foods (Natural Instinct - High Quality Natural Dog Food) is that you get everything the dog needs in a natural, raw AND convenient form - you cannot better it.

Here's to better dog health and lower vet bills.

The Bloat term is used interchangeably scientific terms gastric dilatation volvulus (GDV) and gastric torsion dilation refers to the abnormal accumulation of air / liquid / foam in the stomach. Volvulus and spin at the time that the torsion of the stomach, swelling may occur with or without volvulus (twisting). When the stomach expands / stretches can be rotated 90 ° to 360 °, rotating among Moored in the esophagus (food pipe) and duodenum (upper intestine). The twisted stomach traps air, water and food in the stomach. bellied prevents the veins of the abdomen, leading to low blood pressure, shock and damage to internal organs. The combined effect can quickly kill a dog.

Hi i'm new and was just having a browse as i lost 2 dogs to bloat, i read through the thread and found peoples opinions interesting but i was a bit suprised how people take 'research' as gospel.
The original purdue study some years ago was based on data collection as is the new purdue report which was supposed to be out last month, its not exactly based on scientific research more a gathering of peoples experiences. (People were invited to fill out a questionaire)
Experienced breeders, old time breeders, long time owners etc all handed down that raised feeding was best and for many years that advice has been followed so it goes without saying that a high percentage of people raised fed their dogs versus a small minority that didn't. Armed with that then the amount of raised fed dogs who have suffered with bloat is obviously going to be considerably higher than the non raised feeders i would even go so far in saying its in the region of a 70/30 ratio.
Now with forums, chat rooms, breed specific pages etc people are talking and coming to the conclusion that raised feeding is a possible culprit and maybe it is but maybe it isn't at the end of the day there has been no specific research into bloat.
It will be interesting to see the new purdue report but i am pretty certain it will be the outcome that raised fed dogs are more at risk.
For the interested both my dogs were fed off the floor one was a raw feeder, the raw feeder was in season which i suspected contributed as she never had an easy time and was due to be spayed. The other had been out in the car and sometimes got over excited she bloated during that night and we were too late to save her and she was pts, neither were from the same lines but both were narrow in chest and both had prominent sternums, both were excessive panters when nervous I personally suspect its more genetical than we think with a bit of stress thrown in.
I honestly would like to see extensive research into bloat in certain breeds than say Hip dysplasia as HD although a debilitating condition isn't a killer.

Anyway thats my take on it

i think that my dog has this. he has been the vets this week with a swollen belly. hes an irish blue dog. They said he has protein fluid in his belly and have gave him tablets to hopefully reduce the ammount in there. we take him back next monday in the hope that the fluid has reduced and if so they can operate and investigate the cause and hopefully resolve. However if we go back and there is no change then chances are we will have to have him put to sleep. Hes only 8 and it usually a hand full of joy however hes just a shadow of himself. Just lying in the rooms and not interested in anything. fingers well and truly crossed but ti isnt looking good

It can take very little time to bloat, especially if there is twisting of the gut (volvulus), which basically twists the stomach off like twisting the end of a bread bag.

I actually agree if a dog has an injury of some sort that prevents it using a bowl on the floor then you have no real option.

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http://www.gdca.org/Bloat%20Chart.pdf
Found this

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Can one of you mods make old DT's bloat threads a sticky please - Not discounting mo in any way shape or form - but they were bang uptodate!

Can you find it me and I will

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