See my post above - we went Friday and it came up clean (and a large bill thank you vet hospital) nothing showing at all.

All the reading I have been doing (and my head really hurts) seems to indicate vestibular disease but the symptoms just don't fit properly

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Whoops, i missed that one.

Are there any improvements at all over time?

Sorry if you have stated this and i missed it.

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No improvement really we were a little bit optimistic this am but he's just as bad really, which is another thing against the vestibular diagnosis as he is supposed to improve

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Hi, just a thought have the vets checked for Liver Shunt ?

It is such a shame when a dog, and the owners, have a bad start to life like this. Thankfully you clearly love him, and intend to do all you can. Fingers crossed, as you say,that the vet gets him sorted. Keep us posted. Jasmine's mum x

I'm so sorry to read this and the trouble you are having. I have little to offer in the way of advice, but just wanted to say I hope you get some answers and solutions soon and he makes a speedy recovery.

It isn't normal in the breed any reason why you would think to look at this? what are the signs etc?

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I found this reddogs..

Liver shunt

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Oooo that's horrid

am thinking not but will keep that in the back of my mind for the future

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Hi my mini schnauzer has Liver Shunt its not as horrible as internet makes out in some cases. It just made me think when you said about walking drunkenly its something he did before treatment. My boy is 9yrs old and is just fine now(touch wood) no real symptoms now on perscript food and lactulose but was treated by my local vet for 2years saying it was irritible bowel!!!!! had full boby MRI normal and bloods normal. I'm sure its probably not this but felt had to mention just incase. I went to a consultation in Leeds said what he thought it was straight away before doing any tests! let us know how things are going, keep pushing the vets x