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Old 10-11-2011, 02:07 AM
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

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Although mine are all micro chipped I think tattooing is a better option.
There is probably a way of removing the tattoo.


E.G ex racing greyhounds have their ear cut off. If microchipping was compulsory they couldn't exactly do that and the dogs could be traced back to the original owner - and the owner then prosecuted for being a massive pr*ck.

My boy is chipped and tattood, though the tattoo isn't great, first few numbers are quite hard to read. Dino is too big for it to be redone now though. It hurts quite a bit.
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

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...despite Goblin's post to the contrary...

...I have almost four years-worth of research to back up all the articles I have written, plus spoken to vets both for and against chipping in the UK and abroad.
You'll notice I did include a report possibly linking cancer to a chip as I want to get a balanced viewpoint. In all of the data linked I have not seen any real applicable numbers.. All I want is a balanced view and this is sadly lacking in this thread with people generally posting anti chip details as their first post. Whilst it's perfectly valid to do so it does seem suspicious.

I'm very skeptical about company practices and am convinced they can "arrange things", lobby politicians etc but a balance in this discussion is required. What are the advantages and what are the risk factors? With all this research what are the actual figures of implanted chip failures and cancers? Why isn't it heard more about if it is so common ? I like to think I have an open mind in an open discussion if provided with facts showing both sides. Bombard me with only one sided argument and I will find it harder to believe.
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

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You'll notice I did include a report possibly linking cancer to a chip as I want to get a balanced viewpoint. In all of the data linked I have not seen any real applicable numbers.. All I want is a balanced view and this is sadly lacking in this thread with people generally posting anti chip details as their first post. Whilst it's perfectly valid to do so it does seem suspicious.

I'm very skeptical about company practices and am convinced they can "arrange things", lobby politicians etc but a balance in this discussion is required. What are the advantages and what are the risk factors? With all this research what are the actual figures of implanted chip failures and cancers? Why isn't it heard more about if it is so common ? I like to think I have an open mind in an open discussion if provided with facts showing both sides. Bombard me with only one sided argument and I will find it harder to believe.
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

Maybe it's not common but if it happens to your pet I wouldn't wish this feeling on anyone..Rosie has to have another 20 days antibiotics and anti-inflammatories and my vet has described the procedure just to locate the chip,they have to insert 4 wires down her neck to her shoulders,then x-ray to try to locate depth and position of chip,followed hopefully by surgery to remove the hateful thing..I just pray this lump is not cancerous and has not spread in her body,I have ordered her a raised bowl so she can eat comfortably again as she has twinges of pain when eating now and is not finishing her food.Bayer have been in touch and contacted my vet requesting Rosie's medical records and I am happy for them to investigate this further so long as I am kept informed as I would like to know if Rosies chip or it's housing is damaged or if the lump has to be biopsied, is it fibrosarcoma or something similar,then I know where I stand.At the moment just feel quite ill about the whole situation and have concerns should microchipping become compulsory as I personally will not be happy to have another pet chipped as it has not been in Rosie's best interests at all.I did it to protect her not shorten her life or put her through pain!
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

I can cerainly see the advantages of microchipping. We had planned to get my dog a pet passport for next year. We had her microchipped when she was a puppy. She was put to sleep 1.5 weeks ago for lymphoma which at the moment remains a mystery as to the source. It may have been the microchip or it may not. For her whole life - a very short 2.5 years - we felt security knowing that we would have a chance of recovering her if she was lost stolen because of the microchip. I will however (if it's okay with Goblin - please excuse my "one-sided argument") NOT be microchipping my other dog when i get her. There is too much unknown about microchipping but i think one very important point to add is that reporting of any adverse reactions is voluntary on the vet's part. Lets be honest, they make money and are always in the palms of these big companies. It's also fair to say that vets and charities operate with statistics in mind (fair enough - the health and safety of thousands of animals outweighs one or two) however i'm sure that i'm about to find out that my beloved dog was within the "acceptable" and "negligable" minority.
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

Well, I have no choice but to microchip due to the fact we took 1 cat with us when we moved abroad and subsequently adopted another cat and a dog in various countries when we moved. Now, if I didn't microchip there would be no way I could bring my pets back to Europe and I am not the sort of person who has 'disposable' pets. Lots of people get a pet when on an expat assignment and then dump them when they leave.

So that is my choice; microchip or leave them behind. I know which I have chosen!
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Well, I have no choice but to microchip due to the fact we took 1 cat with us when we moved abroad and subsequently adopted another cat and a dog in various countries when we moved. Now, if I didn't microchip there would be no way I could bring my pets back to Europe and I am not the sort of person who has 'disposable' pets. Lots of people get a pet when on an expat assignment and then dump them when they leave.

So that is my choice; microchip or leave them behind. I know which I have chosen!
I wanted to travel with Rosie and the pup and now have a problem regarding reentry to the country should my parents become ill,this whole situation is stressful to the extreme.Am having a bad day after telephone conversation with Bayer whom refuse to admit there is any such thing as an adverse reaction to a microchip until I got passed to a 3rd person within the company who managed to contradict the previous lies I had just been told and refused to accept.I have been fair with them and given them the opportunity to give me advice regarding my situation with Rosie,I have allowed them access to my vet and her medical reords and they are not being fair with me.I just want the right treatment for Rosie and the best way to fight a possible tumour that may be caused by their chip,according to Bayer they have no record of any animal ever having any reaction to a microchip,my tactful response was connected to the products of a bulls backside!!!!
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

Good for you Bluebeagle. I genuinely hope that your pets dont end up representing the minority as my girl did. Damned if you do, damned if you dont - that's the way i see microchipping.

(...and i respect you fully intending to bring your pets home, i am VERY aware of the many animals who end up as strays because they are considered disposable) xxx
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

Oh weerubbertum felt quite green when I read your post yet you make perfect sense,I also will not be chipping my pup and am happy to make a stand regarding this,I will not have 2 of my animals harmed because of my actions nor would I put my elderly dog who is on a time limit with congestive heart failure through any invasive unneccessary procedure..I thought microchipping was safe,still feel sick:-(
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Re: microchip reaction resulting in a 20cm hole

Rosie had her operation yesterday chip and tumour removed,Bayer have agreed to pay for the biopsy..I hope the results are good for Rosie's sake and will update when I get them..wanted to upload a photo of her wounds but will need to put them on photobucket I think..If anyone is interested contact me and I can send them a photo via email!
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