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food for dogs with sensitive skin

hi, my sisters lab x has just been told hes got allergies from the food that hes on and recommended to get some brands made for allergenic dogs, but the vet ones are quite pricy so can someone please tell me some good brands that arent going to cost an arm and a leg ! thanksss
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Re: food for dogs with sensitive skin

check this site out !!
Dog Food for gundogs, sheepdogs, agility dogs, and show dogs.

My friend great dane has skin problems. Been to the vets numerous times over the years. He was being fed eukanuba large breed.

So I got him samples from csj. I spoke to ceri about the dog. Told her his problems. And was sent samples.
My friend took the sample bags to the vet, who said the ingredients were really good.

But like everything in life, whats good for one isnt good for the other !!
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Re: food for dogs with sensitive skin

When feeding any kibble or commercially prepared diet then I'm afraid it can be a lottery as to which ingredient in the food your dog is allergic to. It's a case of try one, and if it still makes your dog poorly then try another. If our dog has an allergy to wheat then it may be ok with rice, etc.

Which begs the question, "why are we asking our pets to eat foods that may cause illness and/or allergies ?". There are SO many dogs now that suffer with food allergies it has become the norm.

IF you can, then strip your dogs' diet back to basics, take out of the equation any ingredient that could be causing your dog to have these problems. feed a food with the highest meat content possible, with no grains, (that includes rice.).

You will find that these foods will cost per pack much more than most, BUT, you will feed an awful lot less! So it may actually work out costing about the same as the cheaper bag per day.

(I have used this comparison somewhere else on this forum so excuse me repeating myself) ....... Visualise your dogs meal as a tiny fillet steak on a plate........ Covered with a weeks worth of newspapers shredded on top........looks a nice big portion ...... BUT .. Your dogs' body can only digest the fillet steak ..... The newspaper is only there to make the portion look BIG.

The same applies to commercially prepared pet food. The grains are the newspaper. They are only there as a bag filler, to make it look like we are getting value for money. Dogs get VERY little nutritional value from grains, if any at all. Dogs are made in nature to eat meat and bones. Although They WILL eat just about anything you throw at them! It's the nature of the beast! Scavengers.

That's the basics. Feed the best you can afford with the highest meat content.

To go one step further to the food our dogs should IDEALLY be eating, then have a look at RawFed.com Home Page.

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hi, my sisters lab x has just been told hes got allergies from the food that hes on and recommended to get some brands made for allergenic dogs, but the vet ones are quite pricy so can someone please tell me some good brands that arent going to cost an arm and a leg ! thanksss
He has been told that the dog is allergic but to WHAT? ANYTHING can cause an allergy, so what tests have been undertaken to determine the allergens?

The term hypoallergenic only means it is LESS likely to trigger an allergy than some other foods IF the dog is allergic to those ingredients that have been left out.

So the only scientific way of determining this is to use an elimination diet with a novel protein and then gradually add in other items to see what if any changes take place.

Alternatively you can use a food which has hydrolised protein which cannot trigger allergies, however these are very expensive eg Hills Z/D ultra.

You might want to consider foods which contain only ONE animal protein and one carbohydrate eg Capelin and tapioca, duck and potato and see if that helps, if it does, you could say try fish and potato etc.
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When feeding any kibble or commercially prepared diet then I'm afraid it can be a lottery as to which ingredient in the food your dog is allergic to. It's a case of try one, and if it still makes your dog poorly then try another. If our dog has an allergy to wheat then it may be ok with rice, etc.

Which begs the question, "why are we asking our pets to eat foods that may cause illness and/or allergies ?". There are SO many dogs now that suffer with food allergies it has become the norm.

IF you can, then strip your dogs' diet back to basics, take out of the equation any ingredient that could be causing your dog to have these problems. feed a food with the highest meat content possible, with no grains, (that includes rice.).

You will find that these foods will cost per pack much more than most, BUT, you will feed an awful lot less! So it may actually work out costing about the same as the cheaper bag per day.

(I have used this comparison somewhere else on this forum so excuse me repeating myself) ....... Visualise your dogs meal as a tiny fillet steak on a plate........ Covered with a weeks worth of newspapers shredded on top........looks a nice big portion ...... BUT .. Your dogs' body can only digest the fillet steak ..... The newspaper is only there to make the portion look BIG.

The same applies to commercially prepared pet food. The grains are the newspaper. They are only there as a bag filler, to make it look like we are getting value for money. Dogs get VERY little nutritional value from grains, if any at all. Dogs are made in nature to eat meat and bones. Although They WILL eat just about anything you throw at them! It's the nature of the beast! Scavengers.

That's the basics. Feed the best you can afford with the highest meat content.

To go one step further to the food our dogs should IDEALLY be eating, then have a look at RawFed.com Home Page.

Good luck

well i dont really like the idea of dry food, my cats are on purely wet, but hes my sisters dog and she has 3 dogs in total, all big breeds, the vet said keeping him on dry was the best route to go down, i know dry can cause health problems for cats obesity, kidney problems, but is it the same with dogs? another problem is, he is a fussy eater, kinda a kibble addict, hes 15 months old, but she has only just got him as his owners couldnt look after him any longer, they had him free fed on kibble since 12 weeks old, he doesnt realise anything else is food.
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He has been told that the dog is allergic but to WHAT? ANYTHING can cause an allergy, so what tests have been undertaken to determine the allergens?

The term hypoallergenic only means it is LESS likely to trigger an allergy than some other foods IF the dog is allergic to those ingredients that have been left out.

So the only scientific way of determining this is to use an elimination diet with a novel protein and then gradually add in other items to see what if any changes take place.

Alternatively you can use a food which has hydrolised protein which cannot trigger allergies, however these are very expensive eg Hills Z/D ultra.

You might want to consider foods which contain only ONE animal protein and one carbohydrate eg Capelin and tapioca, duck and potato and see if that helps, if it does, you could say try fish and potato etc.
she didnt mention them saying what it could be, but they suggested getting a fishy type of dry food, i thought this was a bit odd as it could be the crap in dry food hes allergic too :/ i dont know much about dogs but i know cats can be allergic to loadsa stuff, i think one of mine has some sort of allergies just in the process of eliminating, it could be plastic bowls, dust, his food etc but the vet told my sister oh its the meaty dry foods he needs a fish based one, maybe dogs arent as allergic to things as cats but i found it odd that more investigation wasnt put in place
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Re: food for dogs with sensitive skin

The best fish based food I can recommend is Fish4Dogs Fish4Dogs Online Shop - Healthy Premium Complete Food & Treats for Dogs. Prices Include Delivery

It's not the cheapest but it is excellent quality with no additives or colours and is gluten free and hypo allergenic

It has worked wonders for my sensitive girl so can't rate it enough
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Yeah, I feed fish4dogs and they have an offer on at the moment for small bite salmon, half price. Have a look at their website. www.fish4dogs.com . I also feed the salmon oil which is excellent for skin and coat condition problems. The fish4dogs diets are free from grain which is slowly becoming an irritant for some dogs. If you're not sure, just ask them for a free sample to see if the dog likes it first. They also do a range of treats which are colourant and additive free so all in all, should sort out your sister's dog's problem. Best of luck
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Perhaps this is one worth mentioning - Working Dog Food Adult Dog food | WorkingHPRs
Their Fish and Potato with AllergyX may be good if she doesnt have success with anything else.

I've used their duck and potato which is cereal free and found it v good. Great value for money if she buys the larger quantities.

We threw in the towel with kibble. For some reason, my lil one doesnt get on with it and does much better on a wet diet.
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