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Feeding just Natures Harvest

Sorry for another diet question.

But I was thinking about feeding just Natures Harvest instead of half NH and half applaws dry. At the end of the day, does he really need the dry? It costs about the same to feed all wet as wet and dry. Dry food certainly doesn't clean teeth (he's only had dry food in his life, and his teeth are getting bad). He's getting a stagbar for xmas for teeth cleaning, but if he doesn't take to it, then I'll try some raw lamb bones with him. What do you think? Is feeding just wet better than wet and dry?

And can you feed different varieties of the same brand food without having to gradually introduce the food each time? For example, he's being introduced to Tripe NH. Could I then change over to Chicken or Lamb Natures Harvest straight away?
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

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Sorry for another diet question.

But I was thinking about feeding just Natures Harvest instead of half NH and half applaws dry. At the end of the day, does he really need the dry? It costs about the same to feed all wet as wet and dry. Dry food certainly doesn't clean teeth (he's only had dry food in his life, and his teeth are getting bad). He's getting a stagbar for xmas for teeth cleaning, but if he doesn't take to it, then I'll try some raw lamb bones with him. What do you think? Is feeding just wet better than wet and dry?
Hi - I've always fed wet food with dry, but funnily enough, I'm shortly about to start a trial of wet-only. I've been feeding a smaller quantity of dry lately (Acana) and started to wonder if I really need to combine the two. I've decided to try all-wet food - as long as the wet is good quality (which Natures Harvest is!) and a complete food, you can certainly feed them on their own.

I agree - dry food is not better for teeth. StagBars are good, as are the Fish4Dogs treats or chicken wings.

Maybe give it a go and see how you get on - are you ready to start soon, or have you got dry food to use up? Claire
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

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Sorry for another diet question.

But I was thinking about feeding just Natures Harvest instead of half NH and half applaws dry. At the end of the day, does he really need the dry? It costs about the same to feed all wet as wet and dry. Dry food certainly doesn't clean teeth (he's only had dry food in his life, and his teeth are getting bad). He's getting a stagbar for xmas for teeth cleaning, but if he doesn't take to it, then I'll try some raw lamb bones with him. What do you think? Is feeding just wet better than wet and dry?

And can you feed different varieties of the same brand food without having to gradually introduce the food each time? For example, he's being introduced to Tripe NH. Could I then change over to Chicken or Lamb Natures Harvest straight away?
Re; the flavour changes within the same brand - I've not had a problem mixing up the Naturediet or Natures Harvest. As long as Ollie doesn't have a problem with it, it'll be fine. You know you can buy NH in boxes of 18 from Berriewoods more cheaply, don't you?
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

thanks. I've still got a 7kg of Burns to get through, and we are going to using half of his normal dry (to compensate for the NH) so its going to take a few months to get through it.

I'm looking at buying the 18 pack boxes from Seapets. If you buy 2 of the boxes, you get free delivery. Is Berriewoods good? I've never heard of them.

that's good about the flavour changes. because if it was ever out of stock, I would want to know if I could change the flavour. Only duck and tripe have the higher meat content (78%) so those are the ones I'd stick with.
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

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thanks. I've still got a 7kg of Burns to get through, and we are going to using half of his normal dry (to compensate for the NH) so its going to take a few months to get through it.

I'm looking at buying the 18 pack boxes from Seapets. If you buy 2 of the boxes, you get free delivery. Is Berriewoods good? I've never heard of them.

that's good about the flavour changes. because if it was ever out of stock, I would want to know if I could change the flavour. Only duck and tripe have the higher meat content (78%) so those are the ones I'd stick with.
That's actually a good price on Seapets (hadn't noticed that before!). Think Berriewoods is slightly more expensive for the NH - although they are very good for ND.
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

Just out of interest, has anyone ever contacted JudgeChoice further nutritional information about the Nature Harvest for dogs?

The reason I am asking is that when I contacted them re the cat version, the analyses they gave me showed that it had a really skewed calcium/phosphorus ratio (nearly 5:1) and other bits of information didn't make any sense (such as their crude ash content).

Just wondered what the story is re the dog food considering how popular the food is.



Seven-Pets, I would not only just feed one brand of food but would have a couple or so brands of similar quality to rotate.
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

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Sorry for another diet question.

But I was thinking about feeding just Natures Harvest instead of half NH and half applaws dry. At the end of the day, does he really need the dry? It costs about the same to feed all wet as wet and dry. Dry food certainly doesn't clean teeth (he's only had dry food in his life, and his teeth are getting bad). He's getting a stagbar for xmas for teeth cleaning, but if he doesn't take to it, then I'll try some raw lamb bones with him. What do you think? Is feeding just wet better than wet and dry?

And can you feed different varieties of the same brand food without having to gradually introduce the food each time? For example, he's being introduced to Tripe NH. Could I then change over to Chicken or Lamb Natures Harvest straight away?
If you are feeding a complete food then it is senseless to add things to it whether it is dry or wet.

So I have never seen the logic of adding stuff to a complete food, if you think it is complete why are then changing all the ratios?

Unless of course you are very clever and can work out exactly the nutrients in each when added make?
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

Well, I have just had a snoop around the Nature Harvest information that is openly available on their website. Has anyone ever followed up the ridiculously low calcium content of the dog food (0.001%)? They don't give the phosphorus but perhaps someone has got any info on this.

Based on what they put on their site I would think twice of just feeding this as a sole food unless I am missing something.
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Well, I have just had a snoop around the Nature Harvest information that is openly available on their website. Has anyone ever followed up the ridiculously low calcium content of the dog food (0.001%)? They don't give the phosphorus but perhaps someone has got any info on this.

Based on what they put on their site I would think twice of just feeding this as a sole food unless I am missing something.
Hobbs - I know this is a bit off-topic (Sorry SevenPets!) but what do you think of the Naturediet ratios? Just wondering....
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Re: Feeding just Natures Harvest

What should the calcium content be as a matter of interest?

Naturediet

Composition:

Lamb 65%, Rice 10%, Vegetables 7%, Natural Ground Bone, Seaweed Meal.

Additives (per Kg): Nutritional Additives: Vitamin A 2,556IU, Vitamin D3 213IU, Sodium Selenite 0.1mg, Ferrous Sulphate Monohydrate 22.7mg, Copper Sulphate Pentahydrate 6.8mg, Manganese Sulphate Monohydrate 5.3mg, Zinc Sulphate Monohydrate 71mg. Technological Additives: Cassia 2,600mg.

Analytical Constituents:

Crude Protein 10%, Crude Oils & Fats 8%, Crude Fibres 2.5%, Crude Ash 2%, Moisture 72%.


Natures Harvest

Composition:

Fresh lean lamb (65%) - single source, wholesome brown rice, (21%), with all the bran, fresh peas, fresh carrots, Scots salmon oil, seaweed, glucosamine HCI, vitamins & minerals, glucosamine sulphate.

Analytical Constituents:

Protein 11%, Oil 6%, Fibre 1.8%, Ash 3%, Moisture 74%
Vitamin A: 1500 IU/Kg, Vitamin D3 150IU/Kg, Vitamin E: 25IU/Kg, Vitamin B1: 6544 mg/kg, Biotin: 1636 mg/Kg, Calcium: 0.001%, Zinc: 69 mc/Kg, Lysine: 0.285%, Methionine: 0.129%, Copper: 8mc/Kg, Chloride: 0.155%, Iodine: 0.818 mc/Kg, Chondroitin Sulphate: 8 mg/Kg, Glucosamine HCI: 8 mg/Kg, Metabolic Energy ME: 1270 Kcal/kg.
Vitamin levels are guaranteed until the best before date shown on the product packaging.

Wainwrights

Composition:

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Lamb (min.65%), Lamb Liver (min. 5%), Brown Rice (min. 5%), Minerals, Seaweed, Chicory Root.

Additives; Vitamin A:1,500µ/kg, Vitamin D3: 150µ/kg, Vitamin E (α-Tocopherol): 25µ//kg, Calcium 0.52%, Phosphorus 0.43%.

Analytical Constituents:

Protein 11.2%, Crude Fibre 5.4%, Oils & Fats 6.5%, Crude Ash 3%, Moisture 73.9%.
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