Can you post direct links,I can't find anything to suggest cleft lip surgery is undertaken only hours/days after birth.


This link wants you to pay to get the info,do you have any others ?

Again this article doesn't state Cleft lip repair is undertaken hours/days after birth,Can you post the relavent bits please,thanks

This is done before birth ,not hours or days after birth,and the article is very outdated 1989,can you post any links to surgery which has been done after birth but before 2-3 months as you originally suggested ?
Up to date info would be great

We must be reading different articles.

neonatal means less than four weeks after birth. NOT before birth.

Galiniera et al. (2008):
the article DOES state that surgey takes place days after birth.
FROM THE VERY FIRST LINES OF THE ABSTRACT:

Results: Sixty-one newborns, 20 girls and 41 boys, aged 7.5 ± 6.7 days were operated on.

That's between six and seven days. I'm not sure how that can be interpreted any other way.

E. FREEDLANDER, (1990)

Operation was usually carried out within cases the first 48 hours of life.

From the Murray article:

Although repair is generally performed around
3–4 months postpartum in the UK, in the past two
decades some centres have conducted neonatal
repair. Surgical outcome appears unaffected by this
difference in timing (Goodacre, Hentges, Moss,
Short, & Murray, 2004);

Yes we must be,
The article I read suggested surgery was done before birth,
In the uk there are only 9 Regional centres for cleft lip and palate,none of these when checking their websites routinely offer Cleft Lip Repair within days after birth.

Those figures you have quoted are a relatively small number,compared with the amount of children born with cleft palates and lips each year.Are the figures from the uk ?

It took quite a while for our son to be referred and to my knowlege B'ham have a routine whereby cleft lips are repaired at around 3 months the same as the centers in the rest of the uk.

Anyway this has gone way off topic,sorry I can't help with images...
I know of a few Breeders whose pups have had clefts,they sadly didn't survive.

I have to admit that if we have ever had any pups with cleft palates which has been perhaps only 3 they were pts as they couldnt suckle.

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I have a Boston Terrier with a cleft lip. I have LOTS of pictures of her. I do not, however, have any pictures of her prior to her surgery at 10 weeks of age. The cleft is still visable and her nose and teeth are croked but she looks nothing like prior to her surgery. Let me know if you want any pictures and I can figure out how to post/send them.

Hello! We recently had a litter of puppies that were born on February 15, 2009. We have both parents. They are boxers. We had 8 beautiful puppies. The
4th puppy that was born had a cleft lip. We named him Tiny. He is now 6 weeks old and is very active and happy. We didn't plan on keeping any puppies but we decided rightaway to keep him. After bottle feeding him every 2 hours for 3 weeks, he seemed like he was my own. The other 7 puppies weigh between 8-9 pounds and he weighs 5.9 pounds. He is smaller than the rest, but very healthy. I have pictures if you'd like. Just let me know. The vet said we could do surgery at about 12 weeks. We do plan on getting it fixed.

We found our Chloe from a breeder when she was about two weeks old. After I saw her I could not stop thinking about her. The breeder was not sure what she was going to do with her but did not feel right selling her so we made an agreement to pay for her surgery as payment. I called the Boston Terrier Club of America for a vet referral they were very upset the breeder did not put her down when she was born. Her surgery was performed at 10 weeks by the veterinarian the breeder worked with. It went well but pulled apart slightly as she grew. Chloe was also born with a hole in her heart and a long crooked tail (which was cropped when her lip was fixed). She will soon be 5 and seems to be in perfect health. She is my little princess. It is a unique situation that creates a special bond. Tiny will bring you and everyone he meets great joy. I am sure he is adorable.

any images would be greatly appreciated.i hope your pup is doing well

I posted 3 pictures of Tiny. I hope they turned out good enough to see his lip. If you would like more, let me know!

Google is a marvellous thing

Here are lots of cleft lip dog photos. Seems more common in brachycephalic breeds, though this isn't a strict rule.

Boxer - adult and pup, looks like same dog:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._adult_dog.JPG
File:Cleft lip in boxer.JPG - Wikimedia Commons
File:Cleft lip in boxer 2.JPG - Wikimedia Commons

Bulldog, pup:
http://images.onesite.com/pawsconnec...pics/gussi.jpg

Looks like pit bull type/similar, pup:
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/do...es-431x300.jpg

Bullmastiff, slightly older pup:
http://www.spencermanbullies.com/sit...g.w300h225.jpg

American Cocker Spaniel, pup, before and after surgery:
http://www.zimfamilycockers.com/Angel-BeforeSurgery.jpg
http://www.zimfamilycockers.com/Angel-AfterSurgery.jpg

Pit bull/Rottie mix, baby whelp:
dog.jpg (image)

Staffie, adult:
Duo, the Two-Nosed Dog. - Neatorama

Chihuahua/rat terrier mix - actually just a cleft nose, lip cleft barely visible, adult:
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images...o-nose-dog.jpg

Mongrel, very severe cleft lip, jaw, nose, adult:
http://data5.blog.de/media/155/2939155_18054fa357_m.jpg

Interesting stuff. Most of these were on the first 2 pages of the google search for "dog cleft lip".

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