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Old 16-05-2011, 11:06 PM
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Re: Please Help!! food advice for a shar pei puppy!

Just looked up BEET PULP on Dogfoodanalysis and this is what they say about it:


"Beet pulp is filler and a controversial ingredient – it is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required."

Which is a shame as the fish4dogs looked promising....
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Re: Please Help!! food advice for a shar pei puppy!

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I used to feed dry for many years with other breeds and started my girl on dry. I didn't know anything about the possible effects till Pearl hit 7 months and OMG, the state of her skin. It was dreadful and she itched like crazy. The vet was offering steroids which I refused, put her on raw and never looked back. This is why I get so passionate about the right food for the dog, as I have seen what it can do
That's terrible! am glad she is healthy and happy now and yes she does have a beautiful coat, I think I will definitely look into making him a raw diet when I have sorted things out. At the moment I am getting the house puppy-proofed and ready for his arrival, finishing off some college work and when he is here I will have to introduce him to the cat, I don't know about my chinchillas, I might just leave them as they are and hope that he doesn't notice them! and if he does try and distract him from them. If he does bark at them, consistently I will have to find somewhere else in the house for them.

I am also having a baby in 5 months, so as soon as everything is calm and settled down I will definitely look into the raw diet, but for now just want the 'best' dry food that I can get. x
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Re: Please Help!! food advice for a shar pei puppy!

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Just looked up BEET PULP on Dogfoodanalysis and this is what they say about it:


"Beet pulp is filler and a controversial ingredient – it is a by-product, being dried residue from sugar beets which has been cleaned and extracted in the process of manufacturing sugar. It is a controversial ingredient in dog food, claimed by some manufacturers to be a good source of fibre, and derided by others as an ingredient added to slow down the transition of rancid animal fats and causing stress to kidney and liver in the process. We note that beet pulp is an ingredient that commonly causes problems for dogs, including allergies and ear infections, and prefer not to see it used in dog food. There are less controversial products around if additional fibre is required."

Which is a shame as the fish4dogs looked promising....
Fish4dogs is a fantastic food. Used by any forum posters (not myself btw, even thought I'm recommending it). Fish based foods make Novak hyper else i'd be feeding it.


Here's the info on beet pulp from the dog food project,

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Beet Pulp, the isolated fibrous material from sugar beets, is another ingredient that has an undeservedly bad reputation. It is a very gentle, beneficial source of fiber that is not only generally very well tolerated, but also has specific properties that make it suitable as a source of nutrition for the beneficial bacteria that reside in the intestinal tract. The sugar is almost completely removed, what is left in the pulp is only about 1/5 the amount of sugar that you would find in a serving of carrots of equal size. It is also colorless and does not turn a dog's coat turn red, like urban legends claim. The argument that beet pulp is an "unnatural" ingredient is often brought up, but people who present this complaint seem to forget that it is also not natural for dogs to eat highly processed commercial products with a carb content of generally 40% and more, and a moisture content of only around 10% as opposed to a more natural 60-70%. Added fiber is required to make such formulations work for the pets who eat a dry diet.

Few more links about beet fibre

http://holisticpetfood.wordpress.com...-bad-argument/

http://www.peteducation.com/article....+2244&aid=2705

http://www.greatdanelady.com/article..._pulp_myth.htm

The only way you'll escape all fillers is by feeding raw. Or something like Orijin or Arcana. But even then the protien levels can disagree with some dogs.

I feed Simpsons sensitive btw, with wainwrights wet. They do a range of grain free foods with a good meat content.


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Re: Please Help!! food advice for a shar pei puppy!

It may be out of your price range but I just thought I'd throw this into the mix as you might be interested in it...

I feed a food called Ziwipeak. It's essentially freeze-dried raw and comes as dry (which looks like Jerky) and wet which looks like normal dog food. It has no grains at all or potato or anything like that in it, just raw meat and offal, blue and green lipped mussel and various herbs etc. Comes in venison, venison and fish, and lamb flavours.

My pup has NEVER had an upset stomach on it! (She has on various other dry and wet foods). Westies can also suffer skin problems which is why I choose to feed it.

It is expensive for a larger dog (although not as expensive as it looks because you feed very little) but I just thought I'd let you know about it because you seem very concerned about food, which is great!!!
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