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Old 11-11-2009, 10:24 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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Id have to support this in regard to Popsy.

The member always seems to come and go and gives entirely the wrong information. Disregard the comments from Popsy it seems they dont know what they are talking about
I rarely feed dry food as I can't find one I'm completely happy with. I'm assuming this thread is being policed by the pet food brigade as there is a lot of defensiveness going on here. A forum is a debate about what various people think about what they feed their pets. I've just moved over here form the US and just because I am highlighting what is common knowledge in the US does not mean I "do not know what I am talking about".

Making a dry food full of meat meal is what every pet food company does. So of course you guys are going to defend it. But it really is worth considering how the meal is made and what it is made from.

So many people feed their dogs on dry food only - which may be convenient but it is not the only way of feeding them.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:35 AM
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I rarely feed dry food as I can't find one I'm completely happy with. I'm assuming this thread is being policed by the pet food brigade as there is a lot of defensiveness going on here. A forum is a debate about what various people think about what they feed their pets. I've just moved over here form the US and just because I am highlighting what is common knowledge in the US does not mean I "do not know what I am talking about".

Making a dry food full of meat meal is what every pet food company does. So of course you guys are going to defend it. But it really is worth considering how the meal is made and what it is made from.

So many people feed their dogs on dry food only - which may be convenient but it is not the only way of feeding them.
Maybe you should research UK dog feeds then. Meat meal here obviously isnt the same as US meat meal as you keep going on about feathers and beaks which is INCORRECT.
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Old 11-11-2009, 10:44 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

i haveto say that i have just bought orijen for my pup when she arrives soon and i couldn't be happier with the ingredients and what is in it, it is a very good dry dog food without a beak or feather in sight
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:08 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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Most good quality (and certainly the more natural) dry food now is in fact wheat free, unless you're buying at the cheap end of the market.
Not trying to argue with you Nellie as I agree with most of your sentiments - but I have been trying to find wheat free dry food for my dog (he currently has tinned food or raw for breakfast and measured dry food throughout the day) and have found it nigh on impossible to source dry food from supermarkets without wheat! Literally NONE of the dry foods on sale in Morrisons were without wheat. I was particularly disappointed with the Hi-Life (moist) dry food for dogs - having trusted the brand to a certain extent for my cats, and being in a rush I quickly grabbed a packet and was disappointed to discover that it not only has wheat as the second ingredient but also contains GM Soya! I fed him it anyway and thought his coat looked awful and his poos were enormous!
I haven't been told that my dog is allergic to wheat but I decided to cut it out to see whether the gluten free diet improved his all-over health - and it has paid dividends. Since switching to Burns Alert (which I think is extremely reasonable when buying the 15kg bag for about £35 incl delivery - it's VAT free as it's technically for working dogs - plus I need to feed him 40g less per day than of other brands) I have found that his poos are literally half the size (great considering my dog poo bags used to be overflowing and I usually needed two!). It's suitable for seniors and low in fat which was a requirement, his coat is gorgeous and he has certainly lost the excess weight and is looking like my slinky dog again. In addition to the obvious (almost instantaneous) improvement to my dog's health I also like the fact that it's made in the UK and is aproved by PETA.
Sorry to keep on raving about it; (I don't work for Burns I promise) it's just that this is a mammoth thread so thought I'd pipe up again
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:16 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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I rarely feed dry food as I can't find one I'm completely happy with. I'm assuming this thread is being policed by the pet food brigade as there is a lot of defensiveness going on here. A forum is a debate about what various people think about what they feed their pets. I've just moved over here form the US and just because I am highlighting what is common knowledge in the US does not mean I "do not know what I am talking about".

Making a dry food full of meat meal is what every pet food company does. So of course you guys are going to defend it. But it really is worth considering how the meal is made and what it is made from.

So many people feed their dogs on dry food only - which may be convenient but it is not the only way of feeding them.
The only policing going on is the policing of good information, this isnt a debate - its the passing on of good knowledge which you dont seem able to give. There are many excellent kibbles and people are allowed their choice, the debate ends there.
What you are doing however is giving broken bits of information stating them as facts when it is really just misguided opinion (no disrespect). If you do a bit more research into foods youll realise you are scaring yourself and others for no reason whatsoever.
The web sites you have given in previous posts to support your ideas have all been questioned - as reagards the content of meal you talk about; agricultural feeds are entirely different from Pet foods and laws have been changed on them (quite a while ago now) anyway what with the BSE pandemic.
You are here to push a very expensive food by scaring people into believing that their foods are bad - this is entirely wrong and you are not doing yourself any favours in gaining interest for it.
You should do some updated reseach and youll find things have changed - not that they have needed to or changed that much really.

edit: And nobody is disputing a good BARF diet or ever has. Its simply other factors that stops people from doing it
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Not trying to argue with you Nellie as I agree with most of your sentiments - but I have been trying to find wheat free dry food for my dog (he currently has tinned food or raw for breakfast and measured dry food throughout the day) and have found it nigh on impossible to source dry food from supermarkets without wheat! Literally NONE of the dry foods on sale in Morrisons were without wheat. I was particularly disappointed with the Hi-Life (moist) dry food for dogs - having trusted the brand to a certain extent for my cats, and being in a rush I quickly grabbed a packet and was disappointed to discover that it not only has wheat as the second ingredient but also contains GM Soya! I fed him it anyway and thought his coat looked awful and his poos were enormous!
I haven't been told that my dog is allergic to wheat but I decided to cut it out to see whether the gluten free diet improved his all-over health - and it has paid dividends. Since switching to Burns Alert (which I think is extremely reasonable when buying the 15kg bag for about £35 incl delivery - it's VAT free as it's technically for working dogs - plus I need to feed him 40g less per day than of other brands) I have found that his poos are literally half the size (great considering my dog poo bags used to be overflowing and I usually needed two!). It's suitable for seniors and low in fat which was a requirement, his coat is gorgeous and he has certainly lost the excess weight and is looking like my slinky dog again. In addition to the obvious (almost instantaneous) improvement to my dog's health I also like the fact that it's made in the UK and is aproved by PETA.
Sorry to keep on raving about it; (I don't work for Burns I promise) it's just that this is a mammoth thread so thought I'd pipe up again
I believe that certain pet food companies will only allow their products to be sold in petshops and dont allow supermarkets to stock them. Ive never seen a decent food in a supermarket, its all the cheap crap full of derivatives and colourings.

Obviously this doesnt help if you dont have a local petshop. I buy my feed online as the two petshops i have locally dont stock it.
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Old 11-11-2009, 11:19 AM
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Not trying to argue with you Nellie as I agree with most of your sentiments - but I have been trying to find wheat free dry food for my dog (he currently has tinned food or raw for breakfast and measured dry food throughout the day) and have found it nigh on impossible to source dry food from supermarkets without wheat!
then dont shop at supermarkets and go to a pet food retailler??!
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

Arden Grange is working for my rescue Farm BC. If I am a bit strapped for cash I get James Well beloved as a second choice. I agree it is expensive but a point was made to me which I thought was quite sensible by my Vet that when you balance that against the diseases or accidents cheaper quality feed can cause and the long term costs of ill health, not to mention your dogs happiness and vigour the extra few pounds is money well worth spending.
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I also supplement, raw carrots and fruit (my BC LOVES cold apple) and fresh mackerel when my partner has been fishing, tinned sardines when he hasn't.
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then dont shop at supermarkets and go to a pet food retailler??!
I do! Either locally or online! It was just that she said
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Most good quality (and certainly the more natural) dry food now is in fact wheat free, unless you're buying at the cheap end of the market.
which suggested to me that it should be possible to buy wheat free, decent dry food if you're buying the more expensive stuff. Which sadly isn't necessarily true - it's quite possible to pay extortionate prices for utter cr*p!
Spar is even more annoying - they only stock complete rubbish.
I totally agree that it is easier to source the best food from local pet stores or online, just as we all know there are those random times when you suddenly realise you've run out of dog food and you're in the supermarket with 5 minutes to spare before work, blah blah. In those instances I would now tend to buy some cheap lambs hearts or something for about 20p - Biskit certainly doesn't mind

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