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Old 09-11-2009, 06:37 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

I'm currently feeding my puppy Orijen Sixfish.

Dog foods which contains meat like (beef meat, lamb meat, chicken meat) on their 1st three ingredients are better among others which don't. Grain free is way much better too.

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NEver feed dogs with a crab meats. Never.! It may cause rashes to your dogs.
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I have looked around and found that Seapets have the Skinners Duck and rice for£19.75 still it has gone up else where and that NetPet shop does free delivery on all Arden Grange and that PedMeds sometimes have offers on AG last month they did it for £22.75 a sack so i stocked up.If anyone else has found cheaper please post as with 12 dogs most cavs i need to find the cheapest suppliers of these 2 feeds
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Thanks. I'll go with the skinners then. Now just need to find an online stockist. My local shop can order it in but charge £34.
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

This is the problem isnt it? You find an ideal food and you cant get it locally. Paying delivery really jacks up the price if you only want small amounts at first. I sometimes wish all the big supermarket chains carried more of the premium foods. Twould make life easier.
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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Dog foods which contains meat like (beef meat, lamb meat, chicken meat) on their 1st three ingredients are better among others which don't. Grain free is way much better too.
No no no!! I've posted about this earlier. Grain free dry food is not much better! Something cooked up in a rendering plant and no one knows what the long term effects are. Meal meal is replacing grain here and it is so much worse. Meat meal is a tar left over by boiling chicken carcasses, feathers, beaks etc and then dried into a powder. This is definitely not better than rice or oats - how can it be? If you look at the protein levels of grain free dry food they are toxically high and so is the fat level. Protein should be around 20% and fat 10% max.

There is a world of difference between fresh meat and meat meal.

However most dry foods are a combo of meat meal and wheat - neither is good. Best to feed a small amount of dry and look around for a good quality wet food.

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No no no!! I've posted about this earlier. Grain free dry food is like frankenstein's monster! Something cooked up in a lab and no one knows what the long term effects are. Meal meal is replacing grain here and it is SO much worse. Meat meal is a tar left over by boiling chicken carcasses, feathers, beaks etc and then dried into a powder. This is definitely not better than rice or oats - how can it be? If you look at the protein levels of grain free dry food they are toxically high and so is the fat level. Protein should be around 20% and fat 10% max.

There is a world of difference between fresh meat and meat meal.

However most dry foods are a combo of meat meal and wheat - neither is good. Best to feed a small amount of dry and look around for a good quality wet food.
Popsy, where on earth do you get this information from? It's basically untrue and if you contact the better producers they will normally give you the breakdown of how the food is made.
Orijen even have the suppliers of the ingredients on their website I'm sure some other smaller producers will provide the same if asked.

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Popsy, where on earth do you get this information from? It's basically untrue and if you contact the better producers they will normally give you the breakdown of how the food is made.
Orijen even have the suppliers of the ingredients on their website I'm sure some other smaller producers will provide the same if asked.

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Id have to support this in regard to Popsy.

The member always seems to come and go and gives entirely the wrong information. Disregard the comments from Popsy it seems they dont know what they are talking about
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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Meal meal is replacing grain here and it is SO much worse. Meat meal is a tar left over by boiling chicken carcasses, feathers, beaks etc and then dried into a powder. .
No it isnt, and you have had this pointed out numerous times.

I can only assume you work for/own the company that you first advertised, and are trying to cause panic and fear by claming people are feeding their dogs complete rubbish, which couldnt be further from the truth.
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However most dry foods are a combo of meat meal and wheat - neither is good. Best to feed a small amount of dry and look around for a good quality wet food.
Most good quality (and certainly the more natural) dry food now is in fact wheat free, unless you're buying at the cheap end of the market.

If you're buying wet food then you're basically paying top whack for water. Most of the meat in wet foods is reformed from the same source as the meat meal that's used in dry food. The meat proteins are cooked up with whatever it takes to get them looking like luncheon meat and then chopped up into pieces (traditionally this was done with soya isolates or polyphosphates). You don't see the ingredients used to do this listed because the regulations don't require it if the chunks are added as a separate ingredient, they are classified as 'processing aids'

So I wouldn't be too keen on championing chunky meat in gravy wet foods - they're a lot more high tech than they look......... but then so are the equivalent human foods (and I speak as a former food technologist!)
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