Just to say - once a food agrees with him dont change from it, I know its a pain having lots of different kibbles youve paid for but if hes got stomach troubles you really want him settled on one alone. Your not supposed to change thier basic kibble anyway really even if they dont have stomach issues (I think it was you that said their dog had the runs?) Just thought id say

Id like to add too as Popsy states
"it's worrying that more and more pet food companies are bringing out 'grain-free' dry food, because what they are supplementing the grain with is really high volumes of meat meal"

If meals are listed further down the ingredients list then foods arent packed full of them. Your idea on starches also as being 1% of kibbles - rice is a starch found in most kibbles at quantities ranging from 20 - 50%.

I personally feed my dogs on a raw meat and bones diet and have found it has made a great improvement in their coat/teeth/breath, however its not for everyone. The following link does a good evaluation on a large number of dog foods, which you might find of interest

Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble

Joanne

[QUOTE=popsy;1093970][QUOTE=LucyJ;1088392]Can you let us know what company told you this, if it's on a web site somewhere I would be very interested in reading it as I'm sure so would some of the others.

Terri

yes sure:

Natural Pet Care Products from Halo

their ingredients look great, but I don't like their over reliance on pea protein. When I'm in the US, I use their food and peas really make the dogs fart - a lot! Also, their food is not organic. And as far as I'm concerned an organic pet food is the ONLY guarantee that there's nothing nasty in it as it's been check by the certifying organisation.

But there's lots of interesting info on the site about rendered meat meal...

my beagle pup arrives in just under 4 weeks and although i will keep her on the food the breeder has her on at first i have looked and looked and looked some more and have decided to try her on whites as it is as good as any of the more expensive brands but around £30 for 15kg and it is all natural ingredients

just had a look over the website and I couldnt really find information- all that I could find was this whch states "Dry blood meal: An inexpensive source of poor quality protein in some dog and cat foods. It is very indigestible."
Dog and Cat Food Ingredients to Avoid
and this
Why Doesn't Halo Use Chicken Meal?
which links to
AAFCO Home Page a control organisation for food regulation.

Are you sure your not confusing agricultural feeds with pet feeds. In the UK a good few years ago there were reports of agricultural animals being back fed rendered dead animals as part of their regular feed routine, this has since been reviewed and is totally apart from the processes used in pet foods. Though yes I do see your concern, this is a totally seperate issue and I cant find anything on the use of decarying animals in pet foods

ooooh good good the days will drag their feet and the night before picking her up will take forever!! Then all you have to do is suffer a couple of months of sleepless nights --- and things lol

Personally I think Burns mini bites for pups is excellent. It does keep them lean though its highly digestable and a very good puppy kibble. With mine it improved his attention, stopped energy bursts and decreased aggression dramaitcally

They are all the same brand (i'm sure i said that in my post) Just different flavours and i'm not going to feed him the same flavour for the rest of his life, how would you like it if all you got to eat for the rest of your life was bread and water personally i'd rather drown in a vat of chocolate than live on bread and water for the rest of my life and i dont see why cybi should have to eat the same old same old every day. They are all James wellbeloved so what does it matter if one is duck and rice one is lamb and rice and one is turkey and rice they are basically the same with different meat.

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oh and cybi had the runs 7 weeks ago when we first brought him home hes bee fine since then so no it wasnt me, I said that he was having humongous solid logs that were a foot long LOL the vet said he's a bit skinny he has an oddly sticky out rib when he bends so he told me to fatten him up a but apart from that my puppy is perfect.

We also saw a pedigree lab puppy girl and she was twice cybi's size i didt realise how uch smaller he would be being springer x it was so cute though it was puppy love lol they shared kisses in the parking lot and then cybi tried to himp her LOL the owner though it was hilarius!

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