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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

has anyone who feeds JWB been having any problems recently? i have had a few customers say their dogs have been being sick on it as of late.

as far as i am aware there has been no recipe change but i havent really looked into it yet.

it might just be coincidence.
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

i have been looking all over the net for the definitive best dried food.
not one place could me the results i wanted.

my breeder reccomends royal canin with a 80/20 mix of a low protein food to offset the high protein levels in the canin.

other dogs do well on jwb, pedigree etc.

it seems that you go with the one that works for your dog.

working dog mix/ allergy mix/ maintenance mix/ light mix ..........

geez the list goes on lol.

i'll use this big bag of canin and re evaluate then.
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I have brought new puppy home last week.
Breeder gave me instructions what to feed the pup.

Morning:soaked weetabix,
Lunch: Rice pudding
Tea: Meat (pedigree) with biscuits
Night scrambled egg.

First day puppy seemed to be all right and ate it all, however now he ignores any of these foods, except scrambled eggs.
I am worried he will harm himself not eating, thus not developing.
My boyfriend on other hand said puppy has to get used to dry food, for if I start feeding jelly meat he will refuse to switch to dry food later on.
So I bought IAms dry food for little baby. Yet again first bowl went down all right, but now he completely ignores it.

WHAT DO I DO?

I am frustrated!!!
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Old 15-03-2009, 08:16 AM
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

When we walked guide dogs [11 over so many years] we used to give five meals a day - 3 milky types and two meat meals. Milky meals were a powder that was mixed in with milk. I'd try and stick with meat as it contains more protein for development that kibble. A natural diet won't fussy eating habits. Have you tried some fresh mince from the butcher - if you haven't got a reliable source i'd say pedigree tinned isn't a bad choice. I'm feeding my elderly greyhound on it as i can't get a reliable source of fresh meat. Other tinned meat i can't say i'm that impressed with.

Most kibble is 55-60% rice [or similar] and then a bit of meat (dried). I wouldn't feed that to a puppy. Later on if you want to feed dry complete that's your choice.

Do introduce the puppy to marrow bones as soon as possible [4 months] to keep teeth healthy. My lurcher wasn't given bones when younger and has teeth problems and dentals and extractions are very expensive.

Dogs won't refuse to change diet. They need to eat... thus when switching do so increasing amounts carefully over a week or so. I weaned my greyhound off dry complete over a couple of weeks, stools a bit soft a first and then later properly formed - but that is an older dog. My 4 yr lurcher can be switched immediately but he's younger.

Your boyfriend said 'has to get used to dry food'. Why? You choose to feed dry food! Dry complete is convenient and that is why most people choose to feed it.

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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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I have brought new puppy home last week.
Breeder gave me instructions what to feed the pup.

Morning:soaked weetabix,
Lunch: Rice pudding
Tea: Meat (pedigree) with biscuits
Night scrambled egg.

First day puppy seemed to be all right and ate it all, however now he ignores any of these foods, except scrambled eggs.
I am worried he will harm himself not eating, thus not developing.
My boyfriend on other hand said puppy has to get used to dry food, for if I start feeding jelly meat he will refuse to switch to dry food later on.
So I bought IAms dry food for little baby. Yet again first bowl went down all right, but now he completely ignores it.

WHAT DO I DO?

I am frustrated!!!
Iams are owned by Proctor and Gamble and test their products on animals see Uncaged Campaigns: Against animal testing and experiments Oscars do a grate puppy food I recently had a border collie puppy well 4 months ago now a junior and she was fine on this and so was the mother who was fed this before she gave birth see Oscar Pet Foods UK - Nutritious quality pet foods delivered to your door and its free delivery anywhere in the uk
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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You should have asked for someone who understands the breakdown of the foods, due to the high volume of people attending Crufts some of those on the stand were actually the office girls, and not reps for the Company - the ones with the MOST know how on the foods were upstairs in the breeder lounge!!!

Sorry you did not get the answers you were looking for
was there any there??? they all seemed to be talking between themselves and not interested on talking to people on their stand
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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When we walked guide dogs [11 over so many years] we used to give five meals a day - 3 milky types and two meat meals. Milky meals were a powder that was mixed in with milk. I'd try and stick with meat as it contains more protein for development that kibble. A natural diet won't fussy eating habits. Have you tried some fresh mince from the butcher - if you haven't got a reliable source i'd say pedigree tinned isn't a bad choice. I'm feeding my elderly greyhound on it as i can't get a reliable source of fresh meat. Other tinned meat i can't say i'm that impressed with.

Most kibble is 55-60% rice [or similar] and then a bit of meat (dried). I wouldn't feed that to a puppy. Later on if you want to feed dry complete that's your choice.

Do introduce the puppy to marrow bones as soon as possible [4 months] to keep teeth healthy. My lurcher wasn't given bones when younger and has teeth problems and dentals and extractions are very expensive.

Dogs won't refuse to change diet. They need to eat... thus when switching do so increasing amounts carefully over a week or so. I weaned my greyhound off dry complete over a couple of weeks, stools a bit soft a first and then later properly formed - but that is an older dog. My 4 yr lurcher can be switched immediately but he's younger.

Your boyfriend said 'has to get used to dry food'. Why? You choose to feed dry food! Dry complete is convenient and that is why most people choose to feed it.
Thanks a lot, I guess this sort of opened my eyes. Same rules applies to babies: whether human or pets. They need to eat nutritious food and frequently. I will scrap my fear over the dries food, and stick with your advice. I have bought few books of course, but only one on pups behaviour has arrived.
Please excuse my ignorance, but where can I get marrowbones? My puppy is miniature poodle and very delicate, I am concerned bones might be too big for him.
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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Iams are owned by Proctor and Gamble and test their products on animals see Uncaged Campaigns: Against animal testing and experiments Oscars do a grate puppy food I recently had a border collie puppy well 4 months ago now a junior and she was fine on this and so was the mother who was fed this before she gave birth see Oscar Pet Foods UK - Nutritious quality pet foods delivered to your door and its free delivery anywhere in the uk
Thank you for the tip on Oscar food.
I got IAMS influenced by TV adds of course. I am new in a field and when one doesn't know (have own opinion) one takes for granted what is suggested. Adds in this case are very powerful.
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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

marrowbones?

shin or knuckle bone from the butcher. If you're a well known customer they'll give you them free... they only throw them out. Normally they have a day when carcasses are thrown out - our butcher's throw out on a Monday... that's the best time to visit.

But for a miniature poodle [our dogs have always been larger] - rib bones perhaps but cut off [with a hacksaw] the sharp fibrous end where the bone joins another. Giving regular bones throughout their life will keep their teeth in order and prevent expense dentals.

If they don't like bones [which is why you should introduce them while young - my two were re-homed] is brushing their teeth. I have to do it with my two and with limited success. Greyhounds and lurchers are known for poor teeth - maybe poodles are better. Dentals are expensive as it has to be done with sedation - bills like £400-500!

Bone gnawing is a must imho.

I should also mention. Don't let your poodle near a greyhound - a poodle closely resembles a rabbit in their eyes! A greyhound is a dear affectionate dog but a small dog getting close!

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Re: Dry Dog food whats the best out there ? ................

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marrowbones?

shin or knuckle bone from the butcher. If you're a well known customer they'll give you them free... they only throw them out. Normally they have a day when carcasses are thrown out - our butcher's throw out on a Monday... that's the best time to visit.

But for a miniature poodle [our dogs have always been larger] - rib bones perhaps but cut off [with a hacksaw] the sharp fibrous end where the bone joins another. Giving regular bones throughout their life will keep their teeth in order and prevent expense dentals.

If they don't like bones [which is why you should introduce them while young - my two were re-homed] is brushing their teeth. I have to do it with my two and with limited success. Greyhounds and lurchers are known for poor teeth - maybe poodles are better. Dentals are expensive as it has to be done with sedation - bills like £400-500!

Bone gnawing is a must imho.

I should also mention. Don't let your poodle near a greyhound - a poodle closely resembles a rabbit in their eyes! A greyhound is a dear affectionate dog but a small dog getting close!


Thank you for advices.
I will definitely pay a visit to butcher and ask about marrow bones. Toffee got very excited with a tree branch blown into our garden. This tells me he will enjoy bone a lot!!!
In fact I will pass this advice to my boyfriend as well. He is an owner of black lab and golden retriever. They are still 'teenagers' so nothing is lost yet for them.

Thanks again.
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