I've phoned Pedigree to find out what they put in the tin and they weren't very helpful... just said meat. If you have the ingredients i'd be grateful. I've been feeding mine on it for a few weeks but i'm not wanting to continue with it for long. I started feeding them butcher's pet mince but my greyhound after a couple of weeks decided she didn't like it. Then she wouldn't eat Chappie [seems to have a lot of maize in it which i don't like], which she had been eating happily before.

I have two re-homed dogs and wanted to get them onto prey model feeding but the lurcher doesn't like bones. For the moment i'm giving them tinned meat and mixer.

I thought a live prey model feeding might 'break the yoke'... pop into a pet shop and buy a rabbit or two and see how they get on!

Pet food manufacturers will tell you the whole truth where their source of meat come from... because if you're have heard about it you will not again want to feed your dog those stuff irregardless if they are premium or low brand dog food.


The meat came from suspicious source and you can know more about those stuff that they put in the dog food they produced here which I found had many others ==> Dog Food Secrets Revealed | Dog Food Secret Review | Dog Food Report

Once you know it, you will never want to touch those nicely packed dog food again.

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Well... yes but i wanted to know where pedigree actually got there's from. All you get on the phone is someone who has been brainwashed into what to say - they don't know what is actually in the food.

I've seen that advert for an e-book before. Why sell an e-book? Burns claim to have additive free canned food - why do they not say buy pure mince from a butcher [it'll be cheaper!].

From what i can work out one will not get any real truthful answer to the ingredients. Chappie always used to be one of the ones that Vets recommended but that has got a lot of stuff like maize. A lot of the dry complete food uses beet pulp - what nutrition for a dog does beet pulp have.

I would be grateful if the member can say what is in Pedigree... that is what i dare to give my two dogs when i can't get the butcher's mince.

I feed mine Fish4Dogs Working. Protein is primarily from Salmon. Treen my eight month old Border Terrier loves it. It is worth remembering that food that is labelled for Working Dogs is VAT free. This doesn't mean that it is of a lower quality.

I feed mine on Gelert.My 3 dogs love it, and look well on it too.

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Well it's never a good thing to have in large amounts but other than just being a filler/bulker for dry kibble it does provide fibre. Pedigree food must have too much of it though - it gave my girl a lot of gas when I was feeding it to her years before I knew any better.

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Exactly, pedigree will never tell you, or us either when we asked them, what was or is in their foods, and that alone was enough to make me look elsewhere.

I spoke to several of my own customers who are dog trainers and dog therapy experts who told me that they always recommend Burns due to the difference in ingredients, and how their dogs behaviour and toilet habits changed when switched to Burns too.

When we got Spud, he was on Nutro puppy, and was pooping 6 times a day, and it was never consistent and rarely solid...

I also spoke with the owner of a local pet shop who only sells 3 brands of food (Burns and 2 others) and he was approached many times by Pedigree to stock their foods but when he got some detailed wholesaler info on them, and the wholesale price list, he knew straight away that he would never stock it.

Wholesale, a 15kg bag of Pedigree will cost less than £10 to him....
Whereas a bag of Burns for example cost's him almost 4 times that.

Spoke to Burns, and they are extremely forthcoming with their ingredients, how its made and WHY it is not sold in the big chains like Pets at home etc..

I thought that was fairly cool of them to actually answer a simple question so openly, and the last time I went to pets @ home, I asked why dont they stock Burns and was told that Burns wont supply them.

The main reason I avoided pedigree, and ALL those cheap skanky brands really is that I was advised, and have read extensively to avoid anything that says "derivatives" on the ingredients list as this is pretty much the waste products not fit for human consumption... hence its soooo cheap.

Even some of the other dog owners I meet at our local park, they feed their dogs on various things like pedigree, butchers etc etc, and knowing what I learned, when I ask them how much the food cost's, and I here "about £20 a month" to feed an alsation, I do feel sorry for the dogs, knowing what they must be getting for such low value...

Although, saying that, I've also stepped in the remains of it a few times too by accident and its like a cow pat... and stinks!!!

A lot of the cheap foods, as mentioned by others contain a lot of "fillers" and undigestable corns meaning you have to feed your dog more of it, which is something we were worried about when we switched to burns because on Nutro, our spuddy was eating about 400g a day at 12months old, and was putting on weight fairly quickly, and since switching to Burns, they recommend he should get 300g a day, although he has lost 1kg in 12 weeks, poop's half as much, and doesnt have the runs every day of the week now..(Although he is only 16 months old and still growing, but vet says his weight is still normal for his age, so he may have lost some "excess")

I did read about Hills science plan being recommended by vets too as they get good commissions for selling it, and our vets also sells it, so I asked them what was in it and why they recomend it and got that "ermmmmmmmm" look in response followed by the default reply of "its a healthy balanced diet blah blah blah"

So, I'm not trying to scare you or anything, I'm just offering up my own findings in researching, and speaking with those "in-the-know" as I didnt know anything at all about dog food, and while I'm still no closer to being an expert, but I do feel appreciative of those I know giving me the wealth of their knowledge and experience to help me keep spuddy healthy.

It really makes me want to scream at peope in the supermarket now when I see a bag of pedigree in with their shopping too... Its hard to resist sharing knowledge like that, especially considering 18 months ago, I would have also grabbed for the pedigree bags knowing no better...

Here's a quick example...

Check out the Pedigree denta stix...

Now, my wife is a qualified dental nurse, and I showed her those in our local co-op, she looked on the back, saw the sugar type and content and threw them back on the shelf..

Promote's healthy teeth and gums..... ?? with a high sugar content???

Seems I'm in the wrong job, I should start marketing ketchup as flavoured toothpaste for kids to help promote daily brushing...

hey, sorry for the ranting, I just stopped in before going to bed and, as feared like the wife said, this place is addictive, there are so many things wrong in the pet world, it gets me really wound up...

I go sleep it off now.. niteee

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You have to be careful not to over-generalise about pet food companies and the various products out there. Yes, many do use animal derivatives which some would choose to avoid, but there's a whole host of products now using the more acceptable meat meal (dried meat) such as Burns, Arden Grange, Pets at Home brand, Skinners, Pascoes, gelert, James Wellbeloved etc etc and who also use natural preservatives - in fact the big companies are switching to these as well.

Pets at Home have a good range of natural foods under their own brand and at a good price (I feed their Wainwrights Light recipe which is naturally preserved, does not use animal byproducts and costs £14 LESS than an equivalent 15kg bag of Burns which I used to feed. My dog is looking much better on it as well, as lots of dogs go too thin on Burns).

For info on ingredients used in the UK (rather than the scare stories of US companies check out www.pet-food-choice.co.uk/pet_food_ingredients.htm

Isn't Beet Pulp fibre? I think I read somewhere that beet pulp helps slow the rate of food through the gut to help digestion and to help the dog absorb the nutrients.

I am not a fan of Pedigree - I think giving a dog Pedigree off the supermarket shelf is like giving a child a macdonalds! Macdonalds or Salad? Pedigree or Super Premium Dry?

We all watch what we eat nowadays, why shouldn't we watch what our dogs eat too.

From what I gather beet pulp is just to filler to increase the volume of the food but from a nutritional point of view it's useless...

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