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Old 03-09-2008, 08:10 AM
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

You need a decent sized freezer and minimum order is £40 I think - not sure but I think delivery is free, or next to nowt anyhoo
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:15 AM
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

I know, the prices are insane arent they ? I went to my butchers the other day to see what i could get, and its something like £2.50 for a chicken.

I think Landywoods is alot cheaper but i have issues understanding the price list. 454g of chicken carcass costs £0.25. Underneath the list however, it says that minced meats come in 36x454g and chunky meats (hearts, liver, wings, etc) note no mention of carcass', come in lots of 2.3kg. So am i to assume that you cannot buy a single chicken carcass. NOt that i would ever want to buy just a single chicken and pay delivery on it. Just want to know how to order the amount you actually want. Ill figure it out need a freezer.

I cannot find any info on Landywoods delivery but im fairly sure i read somewhere else in this forum that it was about £22. I suppose that depends on where you live mind.

BTW anyone in the Bournemouth,Poole,Parkstone,Creekmoore,Hamworthy ect ect area that is intererested in sharing a delivery let me know.
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

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I picked up a load of tripe yesterday from pets at home. It comes in small neat packages (77p for 400gm) or in bulk either minced or in chunks, both are £3.39 for 2kg which i thought was quite good value. They have done all the work, so much better than going to the arbertoire and having all the smell and mess. They also do a lot of other things for that price too so i loaded up yesterday but had a real problem squeezing it all in!! Shall have to invest in another freezer!!!!!eek:
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:18 AM
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

Toni -
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so is the green tripe the stomac wall or the stomac ?
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well the reason i wana no is cas the web says wolves leave the stomac cas it has vegtsbet matter and dogs dnt need veg cas ther carnivours (but it says they eat the stomac wall)
I've already answered this one (take it from a butcher I know what parts of a bovine are what)
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Tripe is the bovine stomach walls. Green tripe isn't bleached like the tripe you can see in the shops for human consumption. It's named green as the grass has stained it a greenish colour. Humans eat 3 out of the 4 stomachs in the various tripes sold in butchers shops, green contains all 4.
So tripe is the stomach wall. There maybe a very very small amount of cud in it but not very much.
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

oh i c so green tripe is the stomac wall lol
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

txs i decided now as soon as all the burns stuff is gone and my 10yr old will go back to raw andwhen i get the pup he will too. done alot more research this time arond an want to feed mice and whloe like chicken n bones
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

mince and whloe soz
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Old 08-09-2008, 03:39 PM
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

Is it safe to assume that the minced meat my local butcher sells at 64p a Kg is going to be absolute crap in terms of nutritional value. I mean obviously shes not going to get to chew down the bones or really have to think about chewing her food ect ect. But on a purely nutritional level. Surely the scraps he minces are just small amounts of what you'd be feeding a raw fed dog anyway. But instead of 1Kg of 1animal, theres 1Kg of about 100bits of 4 animals.

I only ask because i cannot stand pouring 'Wag' into Daisy's bowl after all the research i have done on it and the advice i have recieved here and yet...i cant quite figure out this landywoods site and still dont have a freezer large enough to accomodate a month or two's worth of meat !

3rd'ly - If weight bearing bones are no good. Then where does the chewing come into play ? I have had a look at chicken carcasses ect and there really doesnt seem to be many chewable bones on there, most bones on there i could use as a tooth pick !!!

I bought Daisy a shoulder of Lamb the other day, see how she got on with it....she tried to swallow the thing whole. Hard work feeding Daisy now, i spend most of my time with my arm in her mouth pulling 500g slabs of bone out of her mouth ! She knows exactly what shes doing wrong because i only have to do it once and she begins to chomp it down into smaller bits. Even then she tends only to break it up, fold it up, then swallow it again. It just seems a real shame to finally feed her food with real texture and real taste yet it barely touches her tounge !!

I have taken to drilling a small hole through the thickest bit of bone and attaching some thin rope through it and to a stair post or chair leg or something that anchors the thing to the ground so that the only way it gets into her mouth is in small bits. Scares the crap outta me when she manages to get a HUGE bones in her mouth and swallow it before i can get to her.

On that note, is there some kinda doggy heighmlich manouver i should know about ? Or is it a dangle upside down thing ? I cannot imagine a firm slap on the back will work for dogs due to thier anatomy. So when she does start choking as she almost certianly will with her habits, what the general protocol ?

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Re: Why Feed Raw?

I will have a go at some of your questions -
mince from butchers. There is nutritional value from this as it is raw. When you cook it the enzyme change so destroy some of the natural vits, or rather reduce. However you don't know the ages of the meat they are puttig in to it. You also don't kow what they are putting into it but i do personnaly like to think its a good way of introducing kidney and heart as its a diluted version. Some may disagree with this.
chicken - my dogs like wings. They have to chew them up. They suit them very well and we did a lot of the transition phase on them.
Taste - well taste is a factor, it tastes much better then dry wag. even if it appears to only last seconds. Think the texture might sit nicely in tum too. My dogs get much more excited about what they are having now. Its nice to have a varied flavour and texture rather than the same thing everyday.
I hope this answers a few questions. There will be people that disagree with some things i have written but this suits my dogs. Their breathe is also almost smell-free. And i don't feed lots of bones because it causes huge bad feelings all night even if fed seperately but i would do if i just had one dog.
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Re: Why Feed Raw?

Methical - what is the butcher calling the minced meat? Pet food or pet mince something like that? Ask him whats in it. A lot of butchers put the end pieces into pet mince - those pieces that have slightly dried with them being in the display, whats not sold that day stuff like that. Just ask him whats in it. Some put 'lights' into it (lungs - although not sure if they're allowed to or not with bse as I'd stopped working by then) kidney, hearts, trim from the egdes of some cuts of meat like the flank etc;
Chicken wings are a great hit for the dogs, they chomp them up. My dog tries to swallow big lumps an can make herself sick with it, she chews the wings properly, but give her a big lump of meat and she'll do her best to swallow it in one go, if you're worried about her trying to swallow somehting thats too big then dice the meat up into smaller chunks, I usually dice anything to about 1" square (only takes a couple of minutes to do, if you don't like the feel of raw meat then wear a pair of latex or rubber gloves so you're not actually touching it, I know some people can't stand the feel of raw meat).
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