i am after a leather dogmatic head collar in black, does anyone have one? oh in a size 2. thanks

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Have you given up on the Canny collar? Good luck finding one! but me thinks used one's are like rocking horse poo poo!!
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i really dont have a clue which one to get people say good and bad about both and in really confused as to whci one to get)

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Billyboysmammy knows a fair bit about the canny collar she walks several dogs from a rescue and uses these on certain dogs! She gave me advice that did not rate them too highly for my use! pm her! she may be able to give you advice relating to your issue.

Whatever! neither are cheap so the more you find out about them both the better!
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thanks i will give her a pm

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I've tried them all in classes and with my lab, and I have to say I rate the Dogmatic highly - it's not cheap, but it doesn't seem to ride up or irritate them as much as other headcollars and it does give you control if used correctly. The leather ones are a bit hard to start with but soon soften up!

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glad to see your getting a dogmatic head collar like reccommended by many of us! there brilliant, the best by far..good luck in finding one though as there not cheap!

Hello, I do have a dogmatic leather (although it is brown but a very dark brown as it has been well oiled!!) but how do you know what size they are? if it is the right size you can have it as i have no use for it now....

just found the size and mines a 3 sorry

hey if it is not the right size then any chance i could have it been looking for ages as quite often get dogs that can be hard to walk with fostering and would be of great help while they start to learn heal.