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Old 16-07-2008, 10:51 AM
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Ok,I read the other thread but didn't get chance to Clarify.

Meg was on lead,she wasn't muzzled nor will she ever be,she does not pose a danger to people or children.

She doesn't always tolerate other dogs I and my O/H are aware of this fact,this is why we choose to walk in areas whereby dogs are supposed to be on lead, and she is kept onlead at all times.There are signs all around the Lake saying dogs must be on leads at all times.

The dog in question was loose not under control,had it been onlead as the signs clearly state this would not have happened.
It came charging at her snapping and growling,to me that is not a sign of a friendly excitable dog and if it was friendly my dogs don't want to be jumped all over and pestered nor do I,my O/H or Luke for that matter.
My son was attacked my a large dog and is still very wary of larger dogs,needless to say a dog charging at Meg,growling and snapping made him a bit fearful understandably so.

I am fully aware of dog law and the DDA,that is why I choose to keep my dogs under control on leads.
It was a situation that could have been avoided,Meg bit out of self defence,no damage was done thankfully and the other owner accepted full responsilbilty,that it was his fault because he should have had his dog onlead or under control.

Meg will stand her ground and rightly so,if challenged she won't back down,it's part and parcel of the breed and how we as owners choose to deal with it which is the key.
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:05 AM
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No I dont agree with dogs being muzzled, how would she defend herself if that was to happen again.

At the end of the day Sally, your girl was provoked and had to defend herself.
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:08 AM
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Very well clarified Sallyanne. I agree with Bee and yourself, your dog was being walked responsibly unlike the Dobe
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:24 AM
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You really didnt ave to repeat yaself again sal we apart from one plonka know u wasnt in the wrong.

I agree a dog shouldnt ave to be muzzled if it isnt dog freindly for reasons..as long as that dog is on a lead and under control i dont feel it should be muzled...its the otha persons fault if their dog runs up to a dog on a lead that isnt dog freindly...if the otha persons dog gets hurt wetha its attacking ur dog or greeting i think its the otha persons fault...ur dog is on the lead for a reason...that alone sez it all to people whos dogs are not on a lead.
if their dog gets bit...quite frankly i think its tuff...yer its ashame but still TUFF.
sorry if wat ive written sounds abit harsh but to me i think its true
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:26 AM
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Thanks all,
I can assure you we are continuing to work with Meg,but this may be something we just have to live with.We've been here before,we previously had two bitches that hated each other,we had to keep them apart.
It's not pleasant having a dog that won't tolerate other dogs and you need eyes in the back of your head,thats why we choose to walk in areas where dogs are supposed to be on lead.

Pups are a different kettle of fish and she's fine around them,she also lives with Tyler without any problems so far.She's told him off a few times,when he had a thing for keep trying to hump her lol.

We know our breed and know it's a fact that Staffords sometimes don't tolerate other dogs.(most other stafford owners will tell you the same)

Meg has been brought up the same as Tyler,well socialised,from a pup,meeting dogs,pups,people children etc....
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Old 16-07-2008, 11:35 AM
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Rightly said everyone, your dog was just defending itself against a crazed dog with no lead, the owner was in the wrong and i'm glad they accepted full responsibility. I have had many people get angry at me when their dogs provoked mine on a walk and she snaps back, I had to walk her at night time just to avoid them I have her on a lead so I can control her, but she's a dog and she will do dog-like behaviour when threatened. People need to be more responsible!

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Old 16-07-2008, 11:46 AM
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Aaw poor Meg, she must have got such a fright with the Dobe charging at her with obvious aggresion...is it really any wonder that she defended herself the only way a dog can....

I have to say in my opinion that whether or not you were in an area where dogs should be kept on lead or not...the Doberman should have been.

We all love to let our dogs have a good off lead run, but in all honestly before that can happen safely it is our duty to ensure that they are trained in recall and are not goin to charge aggressively at someone else's pet.

I am teaching recall to my pup at the moment and i know he is coming along fine but if he sees another dog he will attempt to run up to it, only to play, but there is always a chance that the on lead dog he runs up to will not be freindly and my Tyler could be hurt...that would be entirely down to me..if i allow him to run up to strange dogs then it is totally my responsibility if the dog turns on him.

Not all dogs are friendly and sociable, especially rescues where their past may be unknown, responsible owners can only manage the situation and do what is right for their dog...

Meg was under control and therefore, in my opinion , being walked responsibly, unlike the Dobe who was allowed to run up to her snarling and growling...

Hope she is over her fright and fine now.
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No need for the explanation Sal, we all knew from reading your original post that Meg was restrained
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Re: To Clarify

Have just seen the other thread

Hope Meg is ok.

Pi$$es me off people who think its ok to let their dogs roam dont give a damn about anyone else.

I carry a spray bottle with cider vinegar in for out of control dogs, and a ball chucker

I will not condem my dogs,or any rescue dogs i foster,to staying in the garden because others think its ok to exercise their dogs by letting them run amok.

My dogs will not attack or jump all over dogs or their owners while out walking,but they will defend themselves first if approached by a growling dog.

My dogs do get off-lead walks BUT, only in the appropriate places,i dont let them off just so i dont have to walk them more

You wouldnt appreciate it if i jumped out of a bush,knocked you to the floor and roughly tickled you all over scratching your face and body because i think its acceptable to greet you like that so why should i allow out of control dogs jump all over mine?

If you cant keep your dog under control,keep it on a lead.
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Old 16-07-2008, 07:37 PM
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Thanks all

Meg is fine,no worst for wear Just might have set us back a bit.
It's very rude annoying and frustrating,it's basic lack of respect and consideration.
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