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Easy Training with Dog Psychology


The Canine Mind: Dog Psychology
The most common mistake people make in training a dog is to assume that the dog is like a child. Your pet may be small and dependent on you for its needs, but a dog's mind is built differently from a human's. Most pet behavior problems can be prevented by treating your dog like a dog.


The Alpha of a Dog Pack
In the wild, dogs live in packs with a well-understood hierarchy. The pack leader or "alpha dog" eats first, gets his choice of mate, leads when the pack is on the move, and sits or stands higher than the subordinate members of the pack.

It would be completely unacceptable for a member of the pack to refuse to give way for the alpha or to growl when the alpha takes her food.

Because they're built the same way as wolves or other wild dogs, and because dogs can't act any way other than how they feel, these behaviors are equally unacceptable in a family pet.


Teaching the Way Your Dog Learns
If you want your dog to obey you, he or she must first understand that you are the pack leader. Only when your dog believes that you are alpha will you see consistent good behavior.

Cesar Millan, known as "the dog whisperer," says that dogs have three fundamental needs to keep them healthy and well-behaved. From most important to least important, these are:

* Exercise
* Discipline and
* Affection

Many dog owners, especially of small dogs, shower their dogs with affection while ignoring the more important need for exercise – in the wild a dog would be running for most of the day – and discipline, which would be provided in the wild by pack structure.


Teaching Your Dog to Think of You as Alpha
These simple habits will teach your dog that you are the pack leader:

* Always pass through doors and walk up/down stairs before your dog does.
* Teach your dog to walk beside you and follow your lead. Only the alpha leads.
* The dog should be seated lower than you. The alpha takes higher ground.
* The dog should never be allowed on furniture unless invited.
* Feed the dog after human family members have finished eating. (If you feed your dog at a different time than your dinner, get in the habit of munching on a cracker or something small but visible before you feed the dog.)
* Ignore puppy "complaints" such as whining or barking for attention. You decide when to go for a walk, not the dog.
* Your bed and other furniture is off-limits to the dog, but the dog's bed/crate/kennel, toys, and food dish are not off-limits to you. The alpha can take something from any pack member without being challenged.

A well-behaved dog respects not only its own alpha or master, but the entire human household. Children should be taught how to handle the dog so they, too, are respected as being dominant over the dog.
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Knowing your dog Psychology will help you make it easy in training your dog.
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I tink it's a case of knowing your own dog...I agree with some of the above but not all....a dogs needs for me and my dogs goes as follows,all as important as the next
Food
shelter
excercise
love care and afection goes without saying
all of this together means disciplin isn't a huge issue because it just al falls into place.....but thats just my house, everyon s different
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The most common mistake people make in training a dog is to assume that the dog is like a child. Your pet may be small and dependent on you for its needs, but a dog's mind is built differently from a human's. Most pet behavior problems can be prevented by treating your dog like a dog.

The Alpha of a Dog Pack
In the wild, dogs live in packs with a well-understood hierarchy. The pack leader... eats first, gets his choice of mate, leads when the pack is on the move, and sits or stands higher than the subordinate members of the pack.
how pray tell, does the so-called Alpha-Schmalfa GUARANTEE that HE sits or stands
**Higher Than The Subordinate Members Of The Pack** ?!

stilts? high-heels on the bitches? Cuban-heels with risers for the Ms?
does the Alpha-Schmalfa dragoon a couple of omegas or betas to carry a sedan-chair?
OR * A * THRONE? what about cushions for HIS comfort?


dogs live in packs:
Conversation with Ray & Lorna Coppinger, Authors
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...our first visit to Pemba in east Africa solidified the concept of the village dog -- the idea that dogs in many parts of the world, and no doubt since their beginning -- are like pigeons, rats and cockroaches, carrying out their lives in the company of humans but with no overt assistance in either their feeding or reproduction. The village dog is a key to understanding the earliest evolution of breeds. [snip]...
In DOGS, we propose a model whereby wild canids -- call them wolves -- domesticated themselves in response to humans providing them a new ecological niche, that is, ‘permanent' human settlements.
Biologists Alan Beck in the US and Luigi Boitani in Italy showed modern examples of village scavengers, dogs living well on the surplus of human habitation.
predation by dogs:
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It would be completely unacceptable for a member of the pack to refuse to give way for the alpha or to growl when the alpha takes her food.
in dogs, POSSESSION is 99.99% of the law...
which is why even puppies are rarely hassled (except by littermates) over their right to food, bones, etc.

adult dogs do not often take ANYthing from a puppy - the few that do usually have ONE besetting sin, like the dog who cannot *bear* to have anyone else to have a ball... Ever. every single ball in the world that their eyes fall upon, which is small-enuf to fit in that dogs mouth (and even those that are too-large) BELONG to that dog - and no other.
these sort of obsessions are the ones that cause adult-dogs to mug a pup for the irresistible-object... luckily, they are not common.
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Because they're built the same way as wolves or other wild dogs, and because dogs can't act any way other than how they feel, these behaviors are equally unacceptable in a family pet.
WOLVES do some very specific + distinctive things:
* they pair-bond
* the M helps feed the denned-F while nursing, and both mate + young when pups are transitioning to solid-food
* older-pups from past litters hang around for a year or 2 or even 3, helping to rear their younger-sibs - THIS * IS * A * Wolf-Pack: an extended-family, which sometimes includes sisters or brothers of the breeding pair (aunts or uncles) and sometimes unrelated-Fs who have joined the family.
Ms typically disperse from their natal-pack after 2-YO, and generally if they survive to 3 or 4 years, they MATE - and thus become *parents*... and teach + rear + feed their own pups, the start of a new-pack AKA family.

domestic-dogs are different from wolves in that -
* Ms are sexually active + fertile all year-round (M-wolves are seasonal)
* Fs have biannual estrus
* both sexes are promiscuous
* no pair-bond is created; bitches rear pups solo
* pups normally disperse between 6 + 9-MO

there Are NO Wild Domestic-Dogs;
dingoes + New-Guinea Singers both have a single-estrus, not the biannual estrus of dom-dogs.
there are FERAL dogs - and VILLAGE or PARIAH dogs; neither of which, alas, pair-bond, nor do they hunt in packs, and do not co-operatively defend territory - altho if there is a significant food-resource like a dump or a large carcass, several who know one another and are currently eating *may* chase-off or stare-down attempted intrusions by un-familiar dogs.
but this is not a coherent or consistent strategy - they are just as likely to snarl at one another, each defending their own bit of the bounty.

other wild dogs includes
SPOTTED HYENAS - Fs are deferred to by every M-hyena in the clan - the lowest-status F is higher than the highest-status M
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BROWN HYENAS - Brown Hyena: The Animal Files
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Unlike spotted hyenas, Brown Hyenas do not hunt in groups. They also regularly cache surplus food which is usually consumed the following night.
Brown Hyenas do not have a breeding season and breeding within the clan is unsynchronized, therefore a clan can contain young of assorted ages. Females tend to mate with nomadic males rather than those within the clan.
ergo, unlike wolves, NO * PAIR * BOND - and no M-help with rearing the pups.
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DHOLES - Wild dogs - Wild India
FOXES of many species - many of whom form a one-season pair-bond; Ms feed both their mate and their pups, and help rear the pups;
JACKALS - ditto;
MANED WOLVES - Maned Wolf
DINGOES - Unique Australian Animals
The Animal Attraction - Program 1 Transcript

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Teaching the Way Your Dog Learns
If you want your dog to obey you, he or she must first understand that you are the pack leader. Only when your dog believes that you are alpha will you see consistent good behavior.
Amazon.com: Excel-Erated Learning: Explaining in Plain English How Dogs Learn and How Best to Teach Them (9781888047073): Pamela J. Reid: Books

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Cesar Millan, known as "the dog whisperer," says that dogs have three fundamental needs to keep them healthy and well-behaved. From most important to least important, these are:
* Exercise
* Discipline and
* Affection
Many dog owners, especially of small dogs, shower their dogs with affection while ignoring the more important need for exercisein the wild a dog would be running for most of the day – and discipline, which would be provided in the wild by pack structure.
activity patterns in feral dogs -
The domestic dog: its evolution ... - Google Books

resources (discipline) -
The domestic dog: its evolution ... - Google Books

http://www.thepawpadusa.com/uploads/dompuppy.pdf [PDF]


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Teaching Your Dog to Think of You as Alpha
These simple habits will teach your dog that you are the pack leader:

* Always pass through doors and walk up/down stairs before your dog does.
* Teach your dog to walk beside you and follow your lead. Only the alpha leads.
* The dog should be seated lower than you. The alpha takes higher ground.
* The dog should never be allowed on furniture unless invited.
* Feed the dog after human family members have finished eating. (If you feed your dog at a different time than your dinner, get in the habit of munching on a cracker or something small but visible before you feed the dog.)
* Ignore puppy "complaints" such as whining or barking for attention. You decide when to go for a walk, not the dog.
* Your bed and other furniture is off-limits to the dog, but the dog's bed/crate/kennel, toys, and food dish are not off-limits to you. The alpha can take something from any pack member without being challenged.
ScienceDirect - Animal Behaviour : Comparative social cognition: what can dogs teach us?
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A well-behaved dog respects not only its own alpha or master, but the entire human household. Children should be taught how to handle the dog so they, too, are respected as being dominant over the dog.
Chronicle of the Dog: Jan/Feb 2006

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Re: dom-dogs: development, behavior, and teaching / learning

Oh christ on a tricycle not this **** again

The Dominance Controversy and Cesar Millan
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I have no idea who is this cesar milan ... I got couple links and watched and read few things , but this is very recently ... I do not wish to come across arogant , but my opinion about this guys is not good. I just do not like him and everything to him it is resumed to dominance , he sees dominance everywhere . Poor puppy in the first movie with the firefighters he is so dominant over a bunch of testicles holders ....

Terry is a pleasure to read you . you have been spot on and I beat if you have the chance to confront CM in reality the chap wont know what hit him
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Dominance theory is as useful a training tool as quantum theory. The only difference is that quantum theory might be right.
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this is a brilliant link

it is called let's see the dog whisperer doing this

YouTube - Lets see the Dog Whisperer do this!!

this chap was singing to the puppies good night puppy and all of them felt asleep
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...everything (every problem-behavior) to (CM/DW) is (P?)resumed to (be) dominance , he sees dominance everywhere. Poor puppy in the first movie with the firefighters he is so dominant over a bunch of testicles holders ....
yep! even pups are striving to *put the human in their place*, underfoot... say what!?!

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Terry is a pleasure to read you. you have been spot on...
gosh... thanks, hun, i feel very-much complimented.
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...I bet if you have the chance to confront CM in reality the chap wont know what hit him
WoW! this made me laugh out loud, thanks so much i cannot imagine him being stonewalled, or lost for a comeback;
he will just repeat his standard line, that he rehabs dogs... he does not train..
which begs the Q, as B-Mod IMO requires even MORE! dog-savvy vs simple basic training = teaching...
shoot, anybody with patience + a kind, engaging manner can teach a puppy basic polite-behavior!

it takes some real skill at reading body-parl + gradually increasing the criteria, to help a phobic dog,
a dog-reactive or dog-aggro dog, a human-aggro dog with a bite-history, etc.

the chance of our ever meeting is remote - like asteroid-thru-my-roof remote - but thanks for the vote of confidence.
i *really* appreciate it.
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hey, john! :--)
made me laugh... thanks for the tickle!
BTW - i love chaos-theory, Mandelbrot, The Tao of Physics, etc.
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