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Old 08-03-2008, 09:14 PM
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Re: New Dog laws

I'm not missing the point at all.

The fact is not everyone can travel for miles to take their dog a walk. Not everyone has a car, not everyone has the time to travel to and from as well as walk.

If every park here had these rules that would mean me travelling 20 minutes in the car everytime I wanted to let my dog off the lead for a run, instead of walking 5 minutes down the road to the park.

Yes have parks where dogs must be on a lead but also their should be parks dogs can be let off the lead, so long as they are under control.

How is a dog that is used to running around off the lead, burning off loads of energy going to react when he's stuck on the lead, getting a fraction of the exercise he/she is used to?
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Re: New Dog laws

Just playing devils avocate here,what about a treadmill?

I can see both sides of this and out of control dogs with no recall are no fun for anyone.My O/H goes fishing regulary and the amount of off lead out of control is not funny.Both of us have spoken to the owners concerned,to no avail.
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Old 08-03-2008, 09:52 PM
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I'm not missing the point at all.

The fact is not everyone can travel for miles to take their dog a walk. Not everyone has a car, not everyone has the time to travel to and from as well as walk.

If every park here had these rules that would mean me travelling 20 minutes in the car everytime I wanted to let my dog off the lead for a run, instead of walking 5 minutes down the road to the park.

Yes have parks where dogs must be on a lead but also their should be parks dogs can be let off the lead, so long as they are under control.

How is a dog that is used to running around off the lead, burning off loads of energy going to react when he's stuck on the lead, getting a fraction of the exercise he/she is used to?
i understand your side but i dont mind keeping my dog on a lead in public places because if there is a blanket ban on dogs of leads in public places and it prevents SOME attacks its worth it, same as ive said before love my dog but children come first, people are more important than dog and need to be put first
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:20 PM
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Your views are only sympathetic towards you & your dog, they are not sympathetic towards a member of the general public who may like to walk freely in the same park as you. they may have a genuine phobia, & you only care about the need for your animal to run free.rolleyes:
totally agree same as ive said before i have a friend whos child is scared of dogs and before we had cassie we used to walk with them and a dog on the lead, the child who is 5 years old can cope with but a dog loose and she is hysterical and you dont realise how upsetting it is till you are around someone with a real phobia, and same as i said before people come first
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:24 PM
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Your views are only sympathetic towards you & your dog, they are not sympathetic towards a member of the general public who may like to walk freely in the same park as you. they may have a genuine phobia, & you only care about the need for your animal to run free.rolleyes:
My view is hardly only sympathetic to myself and my dog.

I don't just care about my dogs need to run free, I care about every dogs need to run free, for me the rule wouldn't be a great problem as I have the time and means to take him further afield. But as I said previously, not everyone does.

And my view is sympathic towards the other members of the public as I have said I think there should be areas for on lead and off lead. If you have a phobia of dogs go to the on lead park.

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How is a dog that is used to running around off the lead, burning off loads of energy going to react when he's stuck on the lead, getting a fraction of the exercise he/she is used to?
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:35 PM
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Re: New Dog laws

i know dogs out of control are a real pain, but why should we punsh the poor dog when the owners are to blame for not training or controling there dogs right.
and while on the controling subject why should the spoilt little brats who vandle things in parks and on the streets be allowed to run free,
i have had it with the spoilt brat who think its great fun to bark at my dogs while i have to have them under control on the road or in a park, and mum or dad just stand there talking while there little darling is causing the trouble, and when you say something your in the wrong.
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Re: New Dog laws

Alan, as I have said so many times before, I am talking about PUBLIC places where children, old people and families frequent.

Perhaps people that do not have transport or have access to fields etc, should not have dogs in the first place. We are living in extremely difficult times, where the press and media will jump on the slightest nip, or child being knocked over by an exuberant dog. Is it really fair to put both their lives and other people at risk? If this law prevents just one child, or elderly person being hurt, surely it cannot be wrong!

Like I said previously, there should be dog parks such as the ones in the States, where dogs can run and interact with other and their owners. At least then innocent dogs and people will not get hurt.
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Re: New Dog laws

So unless someone owns a vehicle, which at the end of the day kill and injure more children and old people a year than dogs do, you shouldn't have a dog, that appears illogical to me, and no I'm not suggsting a ban on cars.
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Old 09-03-2008, 07:01 PM
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Alan, as I have said so many times before, I am talking about PUBLIC places where children, old people and families frequent.

Perhaps people that do not have transport or have access to fields etc, should not have dogs in the first place. We are living in extremely difficult times, where the press and media will jump on the slightest nip, or child being knocked over by an exuberant dog. Is it really fair to put both their lives and other people at risk? If this law prevents just one child, or elderly person being hurt, surely it cannot be wrong!

Like I said previously, there should be dog parks such as the ones in the States, where dogs can run and interact with other and their owners. At least then innocent dogs and people will not get hurt.
I understand that you only mean public places. Which I still think is lunacy but I'm not going to repeat all my previous points.

What I am saying is not everyone can access areas to let their dog off leash other than these public places. So if and when this ban comes in how is a dog that is used to running around off the lead, burning off loads of energy going to react when he's stuck on the lead, getting a fraction of the exercise he/she is used to?

Also it's not really fair on people who have dogs already and will be stuck for alternatives to exercise their dogs. Just because someone doesn't have access to a field or doesn't have a car shouldn't mean they can't have a dog. If we went by that rule there would be millions of extra dogs stuck in rescue centres.

I agree with you on the dog park thing, it would be a good way of going about the problem. But to ban dogs being off leash without providing these areas is going to cause more problems. Likelyhood is you'll actually see a increase in attacks as more and more dogs get frustrated.

Things have been blown well out of proportion on this whole topic, you're more likely to be struck by lightening than fataly attacked by a dog.
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Old 09-03-2008, 08:41 PM
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So unless someone owns a vehicle, which at the end of the day kill and injure more children and old people a year than dogs do, you shouldn't have a dog, that appears illogical to me, and no I'm not suggsting a ban on cars.
Unfortunatly you can't get leads for cars or we could solve that problem too!
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