The household pets that are 'half wolf' - Telegraph

this sounds entirely insane -
bad-enough that we have eejits in the USA who breed hybrids, but since when has the UK gone so demented as to allow hybrids as household pets?!


haven;t Ur ACOs and dog-wardens *heard* of the behavioral problems, household destruction, aggression toward strangers, bites to children, maulings, and several killings by hybrids?
or do they think the UK-version hybrids are a kinder + gentler strain,


at least ONCE every year, i have some poor twit on the phone, begging me to help them find a RESCUE organization or a SANCTUARY to take their hybrid in, as they cannot keep the animal any more...
they are moving, they cannot deal with the destruction inside or out, they cannot keep them confined / they escape, they are afraid of the animal who bit ___ for the first time, etc, etc, etc.

my personal favorite was the woman who was moving from her own home, with a fully-fenced yard in a rural area, to a suburban high-density apartment, and she had been letting the INTACT * MALE hybrid decide for himself if he wanted to sleep indoors or out, since he was 6-MO.
he had not spent a single night in the house since he had turned 12-MO... and he was then past 2-YO.
what makes her think that he will want to live as a PET in anyone elses home, after she dumps her 90# problem-child in Their Lap?


get a clue, folks -
wolves and dogs are INTER-FERTILE, they are not interchangeable.
the domestic-dog is separated by a minimum of 10k years of evolutionary change, and thousands of years as human companions; they have GENES in common, yes... but their behavior is wildly different.

humans share over 98% of the chimpanzee genome...
but a chimp reared in a human family does not become human,
and a human infant reared by chimps would make a spectacularly un-successful wild primate.

a wolf-hybrid is neither a dog, nor a wolf; they have no place in this world, their niche is non-existent. wolves have a life that is vastly different from a dogs; dogs accept human behavior that a wolf will literally kill U over.

the New England woman who died in the pen with her 30 hybrids was not found for 2 or 3 days, as she lived alone; by which time, all they could say was that she DID die of an attack by more than one of the hybrids, but not what may have triggered the assault; the forensic evidence was far too muddled to get anything intelligible.

hybrids make-up less than 1% of the approx 70-Million dogs in the USA; they represent about 1 in 5 of the fatal attacks + serious maulings.
that is well above their statistical percentage in the population.
if someone OFFERS U a hybrid-pup, do NOT get suckered; any puppy is a far different critter from the adult, i am sure U will admit that an 8-WO Cavalier + an 8-WO Rottie mature into entirely different beasts.

a hybrid at 2-YO and socially mature is *not* a compliant animal.

they are spooky, wary of strangers, attracted by odors (dig THRU sofas to check smells in the carpet beneath the sofa?!, LITERALLY drilling thru the sofa vertically), they are extremely predatory and may kill smaller animals + small dogs or other pets, they have been known to stalk children, they are increasingly aggressive once past puberty, etc, etc.

an adult-hybrid is the ONLY canine that i have ever heard of, to leap clear off the floor in order to rip-down a ceiling fan when left home alone; it was moving, the hybrids kill them.
(in the Southern states, a ceiling fan is practically mandatory to have any comfort in the heat, and the insulation is so poor in many Southern homes that the ceiling fan is also important for moving the heat \/ down \/ near the floor where we walk about + sit, LOL, vs lingering 10-ft up... )

if Ur near-neighbor gets a hybrid as a pet, and does NOT install a fully roofed, cement floored kennel structure... move. they are escape artists; they climb, dig, jump, chew, and probably teleport out of wire-roofed, 8-ft tall cyclone fenced pens, with solid concrete floors and concrete-set metal posts.

if YOU get one... please do not call me to take Ur dear darling off Ur hands, in a year or 2 or 6-months. the nearest no-kill sanctuary for YOUR hybrid is in YOUR living-room; every reputable refuge has a 2 to 3-year waiting list.
it is a hemorrhage of misfit animals, and so sad - so needless.

wolves + dogs are no longer the same species - it does neither of them any good, to be conjoined like a prisoner inside a pretty specimen that is not what it appears to be; they are condemned to a misfit existence, and often die young. it breaks my heart.

sad to see this spreading,
--- terry

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I agree people shouldn't breed hy brids. I owned one for many years she was a rescue at 2 yrs old I had her until she passed at 12 yrs old. I was also very lucky she was a great girl. I am forever telling people hybrids should not be bred or owned, there are wonderful dogs if you like the look go for a mal, husky or northern inuit, lots of wonderful choices leave the wolves alone.....Jill

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It was kinda hard to read, I gotta get new glasses

But I like the writing so nothing against you

I met two or three hybrids.

The first was a cross from a wolf and either a golden lab or golden retriever. It was huge I remeber getting outta the car to see this huge face look over the fence at me. He was very friendly, was never aggressive as far as I know and an all around good dog. He did tho break a chain leash on a walk once.

The second was a wolf cross(not sure what with). He lived with a friend of the families. I remeber once my dad came to pick us up and he left Dutch in the car (she was not friendly with other dogs) this wolf cross was in a large pen with another dog. We heard snarling and barking outside when we went out the wolf cross had jumped the pen and had gotten its head thro a crack in the car window. Dutch had a rip thro her muzzel. The Wolf cross was put down. But this wolf cross was no where near as big as the lab/golden/wolf cross tho.

The Third I remeber at a dog sled racing event. It was huge like the first cross and was pure black. But it was well trained and friendly.

I live in Canada. But this was over a decade ago. I know there is a man who lives near here who has wolf crosses in a large pen. He takes care of them and they are left to roam in the secured area.

I dont think crossing them is right and wolves should be left in the wild untouched by humans.

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I find it amazing that with hundreds of pedigree breeds to choose from, that some people just aren't happy enough and still want more.

More viscous...More muscular....More intimidating...More deterring = More 'respect'?

I do feel that the main reason these hybrids are bred or owned is because of fear. People want to look tough; untouchable.

But today's criminals carry guns, and a hybrid is no match for a bullet. Can't they see that?

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Well sometimes I'm just ashamed to be human. We keep messing with nature and one day shes going turn around and bit us in the wotsits. I love wolves but in their own environment. No way in hell would I want to have one of these beautiful creatures or a half breed in a domestic environment. When the hell are we going to learn that just because we can do something doesnt mean that we should I sincerely hope that this craze does not take off here.

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Hi,

I joined this forum just to post this reply and to remove a lot of the ignorance that has been reflected in the previous posts.

I own a wolf hybrid, I have done for some time and the reason I decided on a hybrid is that they are breed for temperament not for style as pedigree dogs are. The so called pedigree breed standards have caused more distress to dogs due to standards that have been exagerated to such an extent that it affects the health and hapiness of the dog, this shows humans at their worst.

ALL dogs that currently exist ARE hybrids and ALL originate from wolves. I am more worried about bad owners and bad breeders than I am of hydrids aslong as they are managed and trained properly as all dogs should be, either large or small.

I must confess that I have been bitten several time over my life, ALWAYS by someones else's dog who "never did that before" and by small breeds of dogs who are "cheeky little dogs" and "dont need training" according to their owners who laugh and smile when they are attacking my dog.

What I wanted to make sure that each of you are aware of something and have direct experience before making judgements that are based of insufficient evidence and decide on what is and what isnt true.

rep for the OP very very well put

I can see rescue centres being full of hybrids soon. It will be the morons who have no idea about training, etc that will be most attracted to these dogs then get rid of them when they realise the hard work that's required

Hey All ,

I agree with that fact that training is the thing that a lot of owners fail at and blame the dog for it. I agree with Cleo about rescue centres being overloaded as they are full already of all breeds of dogs, sadly this is due to people no longer being able to feed or care for their pet properly. The RSPCA has recently stated that they will no longer be able to take dogs from owners who merely cannot take care of the animal anymore and will only take dogs that are being confiscated due to a prosecution through unlawful treatment.

There are many things we as humans should be ashamed about and the ill treatment of animals is one that we ignore if we can, but shows the worst of us as a species

Too many people take on pets and resent the effort that the pet requires during its life, I met someone walking a 4 week old puppy on a public road, on asking the owner about the pup he admitted that he had walked over a mile and a half to get where he was and didnt understand that the pup needed to be innoculated and was too young even to be away from its mother let alone being walked for 45 minutes, BTW the pup was bought from a pet shop, GAH!!!

Terry, unfortunately you get people everywhere in the world who want something for the sake of wanting it. Just wait for the names to start cropping up, wolfsky, wolfamute, wolfador, wolfapoo, etc, etc