Another prime example of the public being ripped off by unetical breeders imo!
Feel sorry for the poodle breeders/fans/lovers at the moment!

Seems that some folk seem to want to cross anything with four legs with a poodle!! And to be honest!!! how can you improve on a poodle with crossing it!! anyone know! becuase imo A pure poodle is perfect as it is!
nuff said!
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DT

hi newbie here all though i agree dogs should not be crossed i have a 16 week old sharpei x chinese crested<powderpuff> the vets we go to were that impressed by him they wanted one thereselfs apparenty he has the best genes from both sides and none of the bad which will be less health problems later in life he has the best tempremant ever and is so easy to train,up untill now ive always had pedigrees and he has been much better behaved no chewing no mess in the house great and realy gentle with my children i couldnt ask for a better dog,well any way i just wanted to add my two pennies although some dogs really should not be crossed my max is a brilliant example of a crossbreed,shell

Which was the mother?

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the mother was the sharpei dad powderpuff crested hes a big fluff ball with the small ears, blue tung, and he got the shar pei tail to, all he hasnt got are the wrinkles but he got the thick coat like a powder puff ill have to see if i can post some pics of himx

Its the teacup or imperial crosses that gets me these days.

Basically just a runt mutt being sold for more than pedigree.

I don't have a problem with cross breeds if it was an accident (although neuter your pets people!) but when its done on purpose, its just cruel.

It annoys me too that people don't neuter thier pets, thinking they might breed later on or its a shame(?!)

Grr!

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I should hang my head in shame coz I quite like crestie crosses and poo's!! They are both lovely breeds. Personally I love the poodle shape and personality but dont like the curly hair!! Odd, I know!LOL

how would your vet know he has healthy genes
were the parents of the pup health tested, i doubt it
both breeds have eye problems for a start
he can,t tell just by looking at them

there have been quite a few litters of this cross advertised
and its its being done on purpose
its just a money making exersice to the people who breed them
its your so called designer dog
and people are being ripped off by paying for the so called designer dog
as for saying crosses are healthier and better behaved or eaisier to train than pedigrees
thats rubbish
i have had both rescue crossbreeds and pedigrees
i just wish people would stop filling the pockets of these so called breeders
then maybe there would not be so many unwanted dogs in rescue

On what evidence do you doubt it?

Is it because they're crossbreeds and anyone who breeds crosses is automatically scum? That purebred breeders are perfect and NEVER fail to do tests? Or is it because (as we all know) crossbreeds are all so unhealthy that there's no point health testing them because they're garunteed to be sick and it'd just put off potential buyers (who all have cash flowing out of their ears and only serve to feed the monstrous cross breeders)?

I have a cross breed, his parents are health tested and his breeder cares. He wasn't born in a farm and he was raised in the family home with lots human interaction. Both his parents were available to view when we visited him and we have photocopies of all relevant tests and an 8 generation "pedigree".

It REALLY winds me up that people assume that everything to do with cross breeds is the devil's work. People who breed toy dogs like chis for the money don't get any abuse, regardless of their business plans, people who breed show dogs that can't breathe get less abuse than responsible cross breeders that DO health check their dogs.

Every time someone posts on here irresponsibly about bad cross breeding habits as though it's the rule of thumb for cross breeds and it never happens with purebreds, it could either discourage someone from going with the breed that they want or it could persuade someone not to even bother with health checks because some idiots on here seem to actually try to assure everyone that's how bad the situation is.

People don't start ranting about how every time someone buys a bulldog they're encouraging the breeding of a breed that's got serious health issues, so why do we get that about cross breeds?

It's horrible that people come here to speak about a member of their family and have to read some of the crap people like charmedlassie88 and majortom (just from the last page) spout about cross breeds.

By all means, state the facts, things like not being able to guarantee the looks/fur etc in doodles, but talking about "crossbreeders" while assuming that they're all idiots is like assuming that all bulldog breeders are awful because their breed has issues due to breeding, or that all GSD breeders are awful because of the back problems in some breeding lines.

I'm not talking about all cross breeders, obviously there's some that mate 2 random dogs then sell it for hundreds and hundreds of pounds but there is no rule of thumb for breeders, every one is different and no one can say how ethical a breeder is just by looking at what breed is involved.

Good post TBM - but you cant make one point and then try to slag off other breeders i.e Bulldog breeders - not all Bully breeders are breeding unhealthy stock - just like not all cross-breeders dont health test. This week I spent a few ours with an absolutely wonderful Bully pup - she was running around like a loon, had a wonderful temp and, up to press, seemed healthy.
I have no problem with anyone breeding so long as all the health tests are done properly - the problem I have is the extortionate prices they charge - you can buy a poodle for around £500 and a Cocker for the same money - put them together and suddenly you're paying nearer £1000 - that in my book is just taking the **** - however it has to be said people are willing to pay the money so que sera sera!!!

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A pedigree is the history of parentage. A cross breed can therefore have one if the ancestry is properly recorded on both sides - though of course this doesn't make it a 'pedigree' dog. The fact that the KC doesn't recognise it is a seperate issue. Of course I object to people being conned, but then that is as much down to their gullibility as anything.