Yes you always get the idiots who have no regard for the welfare of the pups they produce and then give all breeders a bad name. I once had someone approach me after the docking by lay persons was banned and asked me to dock a litter of pups for them . I refused and gave him the no of the council of docked breeds who would give him the name of a vet prepared to dock. I later discovered that he had tried to do it himself with a razor blade and all 10 pups died! I was heartbroken, I regreted saying no because if I had done it for him at least they would not have suffered and died.
He was reported and prosecuted but just received a fine and a 12 month ban not much of a deterent and no where near the correct punishment for taking the lives of those poor innocent pups.

such a shame .

magik.. u started this debate, what are your views on tail docking?

such a horrible way to go the poor things, but you had no idea that he would go and do do such a thing.

How exactly do you mean, for the welfare of the dog? I found this astounding! Tails are a vital form of communication for dogs. Veterinary surgeons state that this is a barbaric practise. It is mutilation pure and simple, yet you feel that tail docking is for the welfare of the dog!

Perhaps you could explain please.

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Not all veterinary surgeons state this is a barbaric practise. Sweeping generalisation.
And it is not a barbaric.
View tail docking film, buy on DVD
Your probably going to be waiting for the moment when the docker gets the knife out and starts to barbarically mutilate all these little puppys...but it never happens.

Gee I wish some of you guys were as passionate about human abuse.

I voted on the fence as I'm not educated on all the facts on tail docking! I have heard that breeds such as boxers have been known to damage their tales through their active nature but I dont know how true that is?

I certainly dont think we have a right to mutilate an animal for cosmetic reason only! They were born with it for a reason - but as I said I'm on the fence on this one!

Hi guys its ileagle to dock in Australia, it is a bit barbaric, but then again we do secumcision
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circumcision is indeed barbaric eek:

Do you honestly think that your dog would want his only form of communication taken away, just because you think it looks more pleasing to the eye!

I am astounded at this poll and extremely dissapointed, since I honestly believed that any animal lover would be campaigning to ban this barbaric practise!

The following is copied from the RSPCA site-

A new MORI poll also shows that just eight per cent of the British public supports the docking of dogs’ tails for cosmetic reasons, while 75 per cent oppose the practice.

The British Veterinary Association (BVA), the British Small Animal Veterinary Association (BSAVA) and the RSPCA are today urging Parliament to take notice of the public and of those who dedicate their lives to alleviate animal suffering – and ban this mutilation through the Animal Welfare Bill.

Docking involves cutting or crushing a puppy’s skin, muscles, up to seven pairs of nerves, and bone and cartilage – and is performed without anaesthetic when pups are just three to five days old. At this age they can feel pain, and research indicates they do so at a greater intensity than adult dogs because the ability to suppress pain develops with age and experience.

“Currently the law only allows vets to perform this abhorrent amputation. The irony is that vets are united in their opposition to non-therapeutic tail docking of dogs,” says TV vet Emma Milne, who appeared in the BBC’s Vets in Practice.

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Taking all your quotes and info from anti organisations is pointless.
That Mori poll probably only sampled something like a couple of hundred people and that is not enough to represent the population.
Probably mostly inner city people who would be anti, plenty of farmers in the country would be pro.
Get some information from non-subjective sources.

Puppies don't feel the pain, they havent developed the nervous pain system.
Not many animals eat when in pain...
Ever seen a puppy not feed due to having a tail docked?

I don't believe the tail is the only way of communication.