oh right that's why it's best to qoute

yeah forgot in my rush to be opinionated. lol

and again. oops

I do it all the time or qoute the wrong person

Sorry but if the dog is not working (when you can sort of understand the docking) then yes it looks weird/not right but thats only what we're used to seeing, the past few months I have seen a boxer, rottie and doberman all with tales and I had to second glance or ask what they were, and do you know they looked lovely and you could tell at a glance how they were feeling.

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If it is ok to dock 'working' dogs like Springers and cockers etc just because going through bushes/shrubbery can damage a tail then why do we keep the ears whole???? I have known a few dogs that have damaged ears due to going into bushes and have got entangled, have had tears, cuts etc etc

I can't understand it, could someone please fill me in???

And why dock police/military Rotties, Dobies, Boxers etc but yet leave a GSD's normal???

People only say they look better because unfortunately thats what they have been used to seeing.

'Breed Standards' did say that Dobie's etc tails had to be in line with their spine but thats because people 'traditionally' docked them. If they never had then the breed standard would have said about it having a curl to it!!

I don't know i kind of give up on debates like this!! I will never agree to it, i will always think they look better the way their born!! With everything intact!! Humans need to stop doing this sort of thing to other living creatures.......

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shaniel's long ear's are the to protect the inner ear. I'e seen a few police springer's with long tail's. My friend has a springer pup from the police with a tail. if this was a hunting forum the pole would look a lot different! But have to say it would have bin a clear'er pole coz it would only be working dog's. which i strongely agree with. But i also just as strongely disagree with docking of pet's

just a random thought of mine but if the spaniel is prone to damage its tail because of the work its doing then surely its not suitable to do such work ... Dogs are meant to be bred and not to be cut to suit the work ....

...just a thought of mine lol

you could right who no's as i've said i wouldn't work my dog's withtail's.

So are we saying that the only difference between setters and spaniels is the way they move their tails? Because as far as I can tell the kind of ground they work is the same.

So we should be looking to breed spaniels that don't do the rotor blade effect, as Natik suggests.