Originally Posted by Dundee

Whoa - so the responsibility for this lays with a 5 year old???? To be fair to Lisa, I don't think/ or at least hope she wouldn't expect a 5 year old (although she says 3 and 4 year old) to be responsible for the care of an inseason dog!


Loopylisa I have no desire to make anyone cry, you have been given advice and choose not to take it. Ad is right, I don't know the full story, so can only go by what you write here. There are two possible life threatening risks here, pyometra, as Rona suggested and a possible pregnancy to a dog more than twice her size at an age where she is really too young to have a litter. You have been given advice to get her to the vets asap and your response was

The vet visit should be because you bitch needs it, not for your curiosity - and I'm sorry I can't see anything funny about it.

At a time when dogs are being pts because rescues are overflowing, breeders are unable to sell their puppies and dogs are being handed in because owners can no longer afford to keep them, you think it best to bring more pups into the world.

I have no desire to see you upset, but perhaps you could put aside your feelings and put your poor bitch first? She is now in a position of risk - please get her help asap and the place to get that is not a forum, but from your vet. Besides, vets will not be openly judgemental so you will get the help you need there.

I will not post again, so you can come back and I'm sure there will be plenty who will support you and coo over the puppies when they arrive. I wish your bitch well, but be under no illusions that she is too young and possible too small to have an easy time of this, so you will need to be extra vigilant and get her all the professional help you can.

Originally Posted by Dundee

Absolutely, and it's the casual attitude that is upsetting. There could be considerable risks - pyometra has also been mentioned and the OP is only going to take the bitch to the vet to satisfy her 'curiosity....LOL'

and I didn't say she was, I said there was a strong possiblity!

Originally Posted by DevilDogz

Why dont you have it in you for a miss mate jab? Do you have it in you to rear a little of pups and then rehome them all to 5star forever homes.!
Beacuse you may have read some threads on her lately and welping a litter is not easy.!

Originally Posted by loopylisa2009

Hiya since we have had sox she has been great and going outside for toilet, well at the mo we think she may be having a phantom pregnancy as she has been taking teddies into her crate, and getting clingy, has got a little fatter round the ribs,and stuff like that. She has been sck a couple of times over the last few weeks but nothing to write home about. Well the last 2 nights on the trot she has pooed in the house over night, we are putting her out at night like we usually do, I just don't know why, is it an indication she isn't well or just one of those things, and how best to deal with it. Is it likely something to do with the phantom, or should I be worried that its not a phantom afterall!! Really don't know what to do, any help and advice would be most most welcomed xx lisa xx

By the was she is 17 months old

Originally Posted by deb53

Have just read through this thread and obviously you are getting upset about the way Dundee has responded. Your original post was not a casual chit chat over a cup of tea it was asking for help and advice. What Dundee has put in his/her (sorry new to this forum ..not sure...please excuse) answer is 100% correct. The risk of pyo is high, the chance of pregnancy to a male that is way too big for her can cause many life threatening problems to her and her whelps etc etc

If Dundee had come back and said " don't worry love things will be ok" then you would not be throwing your toys out of the dogs bed but because of good,sound, common sense advice that has upset you.

If you didn,t want to hear the advice wether it good or bad but for the welfare of your dog why post on here? You mentioned something about having friends on here ...well a true friend would tell the the truth not dilly dally over it and sometimes THE TRUTH HURTS.

I hope your dog sees a vet today and hopefully you will come back and give us good news.