Bringing a dog over from America

Kinski · #1 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 06:59 PM

My daughter and her oh live in the states, they intend to come back over here next year to live

and they will be bringing their dog Kinski with them.
I'm sure I read ages ago that you can take a dog with you in the cabin if you fly into France, I've been trying to find out about it but I'm not having much luck. Does anyone know if it's possible or have I been imagining things

, they'd much rather do it that way if possible and then drive all the way up here.

This is Kinski who is a Boston terrier

Terri

Nicky09 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:02 PM

Dogs are only allowed in the cabin if they are under 16lbs and the carrier in which the dog can stand up, lie down and turn around fully fits under the seat. I'm not sure if Bostons would fit he may have to go into the hold. Not many airlines even allow you to do this. If you contact a good animal transportation company we're using animal airlines they'll be able to give you more information. Another thing is that some airlines I think... don't fly Bostons the smushed face and everything.

SpringerHusky · #3 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:03 PM

I have not heard of UK flights doing this but the there's quarantine, I know if you go by boat with the dig you won't need quarantine or something, i'll speak more to when my OH comes home, he lives in the states and wants to move over here

p.s He's very cute

fullpets · #4 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:03 PM

I've heard of people bringing their dogs to different countries, but they had to sedate them ... not sure if you will have to do that.

Nicky09 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:05 PM

No do not sedate them whatever you do. It causes all kinds of problems can cause breathing issues and everything. Pretty much all vets advise against it.

SpringerHusky · #6 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullpets

I've heard of people bringing their dogs to different countries, but they had to sedate them ... not sure if you will have to do that.

Very few airplanes will take a sedated dog, it FAR to dangerous and I personally reccomend against ever sedating a dog.

SpringerHusky · #7 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:08 PM

Found this it should help;

Quote:

The good news is that pets who have
met certain criteria no longer have to be quarantined to enter the UK.
The not so good news is that you have to plan at least six months in
advance to take advantage of this, and are strictly limited in terms
of how you travel.

According to the US Embassy in London:

"From December 11, 2002 properly documented dogs and cats from the
U.S. and Canada can enter the U.K. under the U.K. Pet Travel Scheme
(PETS) without spending any time in quarantine. The process requires
several detailed steps (in this order): your pet must be microchipped,
vaccinated against rabies and then receive a blood test from a U.S.
veterinarian. After reviewing the above paperwork, a USDA-authorized
veterinarian can supply the official PETS certificate needed to bring
your dog or cat into the U.K.. With the proper paperwork in hand, and
a final treatment against ticks and tapeworms shortly before travel,
your pet can enter the U.K. together without a quarantine
requirement!"

American Embassy London
U.S. And Canada Join The PET Travel Scheme
Embassy of the U.S. London: For U.S. Visitors to the U.K.: U.K. PET Travel Scheme

" Pets may not enter the UK under PETS until six months have passed
from the date that the blood sample was taken which led to a
successful test result. Once the PETS certificate has been issued and
after that six month period has passed, the PETS certificate is valid
and the pet may enter the UK."

The Six Month Rule
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - Procedures for Vets

[ Essentially, your pet serves her quarantine period at home six
months prior to travel, after being cleared by an authorized vet. ]

Do keep in mind that certain breeds of dogs are not permitted to enter
the UK - if travellers attempt to bring in the following four breeds,
the dogs will be immediately confiscated and destroyed:

* the Pit Bull Terrier
* the Japanese tosa
* the Dogo Argentino
* the Fila Braziliero

[ Dangerous Dogs Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - What you need to do - Dangerous dogs and hybrid animals
]

Alternate routes will not help you avoid quarantine; rather, they
would ensure that your pet be quarantined, which is what you're trying
to avoid. You must use the PETS system to take your pooch along, and
ensure that you travel by *direct route only*:

"Dogs and cats travelling from the USA or Canada are required to
travel to the UK on an air route approved for PETS by the UK
Government. These routes will take you only to an airport in England,
not one in Scotland, Wales, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man,
Northern Ireland or the Republic of Ireland. Animals travelling from
the USA or Canada may not enter the UK on a route departing from any
other country. They must also travel as cargo in a container bearing
an official seal (part 3b). Check costs, requirements and procedures
with your travel company well before you travel."

How To Travel
Defra, UK - Error page

Approved air carriers may be found here:

Air Contacts
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - What you need to do - Exporting your ferret

The UK's Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs (Defra)
offers a fact sheet for PETS:

Factsheet - The Pet Travel Scheme (PETS) - USA and Canada
Defra, UK - Error page

Procedures for pet owners are detailed here:

What you need to do to bring your pet into or back into the UK under
the Pet Travel Scheme
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - What you need to do to bring your pet into or back into the UK under the Pet Travel Scheme

Pets traveling from the United States are subject to additional requirements:

Long Haul countries - more information
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - Long Haul Countries - more information

There are also procedures your vet must follow:

Procedures for Vets
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - Procedures for Vets

For more information about taking your dog to the UK under the PETS scheme:

Pet Travel Scheme Helpline
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Area 201
1a Page Street,
London
SW1P 4PQ

Telephone: +44 (0)870 241 1710

(Monday to Friday - 8.30am to 5pm UK time. If you cannot get through,
please leave a message on the voice mail)

Fax: +44 (0)20 7904 6206

E-mail: pets.helpline@defra.gsi.gov.uk (please enclose your postal
address and a day time telephone number)

Contact Details
Defra, UK - Animal health and welfare - Pet Travel Scheme - What you need to do - Exporting your ferret

Nicky09 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:14 PM

From a quick check a lot of airlines won't fly Bostons during the summer months because of the onboard temperature could get too high causing respiratory distress and its really only toy dogs that are allowed to fly in the cabin and from the little I know about the breed I think they're a little too big so he will have to go in the hold.

Kinski · #9 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky09

Dogs are only allowed in the cabin if they are under 16lbs and the carrier in which the dog can stand up, lie down and turn around fully fits under the seat. I'm not sure if Bostons would fit he may have to go into the hold. Not many airlines even allow you to do this. If you contact a good animal transportation company we're using animal airlines they'll be able to give you more information. Another thing is that some airlines I think... don't fly Bostons the smushed face and everything.

That's brilliant Nicky thanks for that, we knew there would be a problem because of his breathing and also something to do with them feeling the temperature extremes

, my daughter can't take him out for long if it's very cold or very hot. I know nothing about the breed only what my daughter tells me. Want a bet as to who'll probably end up paying to have him flown over cause they're always skint. It will be later on next year, probably the autumn, we just want to get as much information as we can as early as we can.

Thanks for the links SpringerHusky I'll send them to her and my son in law and let them read through them.

Terri

Nicky09 · #10 (**permalink**) 02-06-2009, 07:31 PM

Thats ok we spent about 4 months researching all this for my animals and before that my friends which included an English Mastiff who I have to say flew out in March to the US and was fine with the breathing issues he as far as they know didn't have any. I just about know what they look like but apparently they weigh 10-25lbs so theres a chance that he might be the right weight to go in the cabin.

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