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Old 03-08-2009, 06:56 PM
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Bullies are bred for gameness - therefore tenacity and courage - thats what makes it hard for them to let go once they got hold of something that is true.
But their jaw is perfectly normal otherwise and do not hold more strength than other breeds - maybe more strength than similar sized breeds (because they have a rather large head in comparison) but not when compared to bigger breeds obviously.
I really do not think it would be easier to get a GSD off than a SBT and although I see you mean well its not the kind of assumptions SBT owners want to have spreading around I am afraid there are enough prejudices around the breed as it is, which is probably why people get a bit defensive when confronted with the very annoying "lock myth"

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Old 03-08-2009, 07:00 PM
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Crikey love I was just giving my opinion! And I was basing it on experience and research! I have always said it's the owners fault! and i was commenting on the "hard" status of these dogs which causes the problem, if a bull type did not look the way it did or have certain traits then it wouldn't have the "hard" status! as with any other dog with this status! I wasn't saying this thread's ONLY about Bulls I was saying i was only commenting on bulls! as tht was what brought the issue up! I'M NOT PUTTING ANY BLAME ON THE BREED they cannot help how they look!
When something is shut and you can't open it it is locked, that was how lock-jaw was discribed to me by an animal behaviorist, when you cannot get the dog to release what it has hold of out of pure strength it is considered to have lock-jaw! And unfortunatly bulls were bred with strength of jaw!
What experience and research, when most of it shows that these dogs jaws cannot and do not lock.

Nice animal behaviourist there, I for one would like to know where they studied - because obviously it was the wrong place and they need to do it again.
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These are the top ten breeds that are responsible for dog bites..

1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel

Only one bull breed in there, and thats a banned one.

Some studies have shown that the GSD has a greater bite force that the ABPT. Of course it will depend on the individual animal. But i think many people are highly ill-educated when it comes to bite strength and aggression.

What it boils down to is ownership, training and socialisation. All dogs can kill, even yours, so i find your statement rather redundant.
very interesting post......info i never knew......
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Old 03-08-2009, 11:37 PM
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My daughter where we live ,was attacked by a rottweiler when walking down our side of the path with our jack Russel..this dog shot from the back of the hall way up and knocked his elder owner out the way with no collar it had his mouth over our dogs throat so my daughter picked her up and the other dog would not stop jumping and interrogating them both my 6 yr old just got behind our gate ..
We called the police out and he was done for no collar not socializing the dog we were told all the dogs that are talked about today SHOULD BE MUZZLED WHEN OUT and if not the owner will face prosecution as a new dog law came in for these animals under dangerous dogs and if you see any that are not muzzled you are right to report it ..no not all dogs are the same but the lawa is the law and was the ploice talking to us
sorry for your experience...was your 6r old daughter walking the dog..i hope not..MY DOGS BY LAW DO NOT NEED TO BE MUZZLED...

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Re: Dog attacks!!!

When i take my dog for a walk most people avoid us probarly because im young and i have a SBT so they think the worse the only people i can intaract with are other bigger dogs like SBT, rottweillers etc and my favourite is surprisnly that alot of OAPs have come up stroking him asking all sorts about him. Fact is he loves playing with kids hes gentle with them and very playful. and as far as getting bit i have been biting once in the bum cheek by a jack russel.
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Re: Dog attacks!!!

I might sound daft but what sbt?

my brother has been attacked by a pitbull which charged up the street after him. And he been bittin by a collie.

my mom has been bitten by a collie and she has had agressive dogs as a kid around her so she is paraniod and will cross the street at the sight of a dog. Tho there is a local pitbull that shes is not that scared of cuz it has something to do with its face

my dad had a scarey run in with two german shepards last week.
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I might sound daft but what sbt?

my brother has been attacked by a pitbull which charged up the street after him. And he been bittin by a collie.

my mom has been bitten by a collie and she has had agressive dogs as a kid around her so she is paraniod and will cross the street at the sight of a dog. Tho there is a local pitbull that shes is not that scared of cuz it has something to do with its face

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These are the top ten breeds that are responsible for dog bites..

1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel

Only one bull breed in there, and thats a banned one.

Some studies have shown that the GSD has a greater bite force that the ABPT. Of course it will depend on the individual animal. But i think many people are highly ill-educated when it comes to bite strength and aggression.

What it boils down to is ownership, training and socialisation. All dogs can kill, even yours, so i find your statement rather redundant.
Glad to see GSD isn't on there though I would have thought they would be in the top 5 with all the media stories. I'm not surprised JRs are number 3
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Re: Dog attacks!!!

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These are the top ten breeds that are responsible for dog bites..

1. Dachshunds
2. Chihuahua
3. Jack Russell
4. Australian Cattle Dog
5. Cocker Spaniel
6. Beagle
7. Border Collie
8. Pit Bull Terrier
9. Great Dane
10. English Springer Spaniel

Only one bull breed in there, and thats a banned one.

Some studies have shown that the GSD has a greater bite force that the ABPT. Of course it will depend on the individual animal. But i think many people are highly ill-educated when it comes to bite strength and aggression.

What it boils down to is ownership, training and socialisation. All dogs can kill, even yours, so i find your statement rather redundant.
Thank you for this Nonnie..I am shocked to see a few breed's there actually if i was having to guess what they would be..Great danes, english springer spaniels, Beagle's, Austalin cattle dog, cocker spaniel and dachshunds would not have been on my list!! ....

But then i dont really like to look at it as how many dogs from each breed have attacked..Because we all know that most of the time (i know not all) that it's down to the irresponsible owner, poor traning and socalizing..
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i know what you are saying its the idiots who train these lovely dogs to fight that are at fault not the dogs

but its a myth about then being able to lock jaws & in this test an american pit bull also had the least bite pressure, so it could be down to individuals rather than breeds.

Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepard, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The APBT had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested
Here's the video. The pitbull was pretty feeble TBH

YouTube - Bite force competition. Pitbull, Rottweiler, and Shepherd.
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