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Old 16-05-2009, 04:42 PM
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Re: puppy buying advice dilema

If your not wanting to breed from this dog/bitch then the KC papers don't matter,
Once you get the puppy you will not be able to register it with the KC as the litter hasn't been registered by the breeder only they can do this,
so it seems one or both the parents of the puppies are not registered

if your happy with the pup then £300 is a fair price imo & 6wks is ok to take them home, i know a lot don't believe in this but at 6wks they should be on solids & not feeding off the mother
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i know a lot don't believe in this but at 6wks they should be on solids & not feeding off the mother
I know this is slightly off topic, but think it may be useful. The reason why 7/8 weeks is better and 6 weeks is too young has nothing to do with weaning and feeding off the mother, but more to do with the socialisation within the litter, learning bite inhibition and learning canine behaviour from its littermates. This is why it is even more important and 8 weeks would be recommended when the puppy is going to a home where there are no other dogs. HTH
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Re: puppy buying advice dilema

It sounds to me as though the breeder is rather ignorant rather than lying. £300 is incredibly cheap even for an unregistered pup so she is certainly not breeding for money. Maybe she thinks 'papers' mean the pedigree which is done by the breeder. If the owner of the stud dog is doing them it probably means the bitch's owner doesnt know how to and may genuinely think you can register the pup if you want to. 6 weeks is rather young but if the pups are not going to be socialised and others are going at 6 weeks I wouldnt want to leave one behind. I wouldnt walk away, I would accept that you are getting an unregistered puppy from a mother with a good temperament and a house reared pup that is used to other dogs and children. If you think £300 is expensive you certainly wont be buying a pup from someone else from the more normal £600 plus so I would certainly risk it. My unregistered pup cost more than that and I couldnt afford a registered one so was very pleased to find a sensibly priced litter.
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Old 16-05-2009, 05:04 PM
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I know this is slightly off topic, but think it may be useful. The reason why 7/8 weeks is better and 6 weeks is too young has nothing to do with weaning and feeding off the mother, but more to do with the socialisation within the litter, learning bite inhibition and learning canine behaviour from its littermates. This is why it is even more important and 8 weeks would be recommended when the puppy is going to a home where there are no other dogs. HTH
Yeah see what ya mean
then on another note we rescued two different pups from idiot breeders both at 4wks old & they both turned out to be cracking dogs
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Old 16-05-2009, 05:05 PM
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Re: puppy buying advice dilema

I agree with the opinions above. I would not take a puppy younger than 8 weeks and a responsible breeder would not LET you take them.
Asking for money upfront is also strange I would think. Any honest person would give you your deposit back...
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Old 16-05-2009, 05:18 PM
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I would walk away too, i would not have a puppy until at least 8 weeks old and would not expect to pay for the 2 weeks extra keep. I agree the idea of the last 2 weeks or more is for socialising the pups and the biting part of it is very important especially in such a big powerful breed. We have seen so many threads on here lately about puppies biting and how do they stop them and some i would suspect are pups that are too young to leave their litter mates.
I would say £50 is little to lose in comparison to the time you hope to have your dog once you find the right one.
As someone said before would you feel confident that you could consult the breeder with confidence in the future if you had a problem. have they said that if you do have a problem or need to return the pup that they will gladly take it back.
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Old 16-05-2009, 06:05 PM
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Re: puppy buying advice dilema

Our breeder said the same, that if we ever have any problems and questions we can contact her ( which we did when Spud was sick) and she'd also take hiim back if we couldn't keep him for any reason ( which I cannot even imagine!)
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I would avoid this 'breeder'! Just my opinion. There should only bee good signs when getting a puppy.
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Re: puppy buying advice dilema

Just walk away.

No reputable breeder would ask u for money up front.

Papers are papers, if they cant show u them they arent organised breeders.

This pup may have a wonderful mom and dad, she may have a beautiful temperament and make u a great pet but she is not what u signed up for.

Oh my i can understand how much emotional thought u have put into this but pedigrees are a lot of money. Get what u've paid for or walk.

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