yes I am going to do the lead thing as I stand out there for ages while he runs around leaping about like a loony! Also it will help because he goes behind a bit I cant get to and I cant tell if he is weeing back there.

Husband is helping out as much as possible but Obie is not very obedient with him. Even more reason to keep it up though. I will not allow him to just obey me. OH and I are doing his obedience classes together too so that should help.

Never used one but the principle is the same as taking wee soaked paper outside. I would still take the paper out too as it is actuallt their own scent.

Would be interested to know if the post thing encourages them to one stop.