Originally Posted by Laudenham

Wow, why is everybody about not learning about e-collars? and the rufus post??? that story is well know, it was an invisible fence collar, it was never turned on and the guy left it on for days on end in the rain, the dog got necrosis, the vet was a friend of the owners from school, she recommended the invisible fence collar. When Rufus developed Necrosis, due to leaving the collar on for days on end, she wrote him the letter which was only for the store he got it from and she was trying to help her one time school friend to get him a refund, she had no idea her letter would end up on the net. She was not qualified to confirm burning and then when trouble started for her changed her story to acid burns due to battery leakage because the collar he been out in the rain for days, but, that was his fault for leaving the collar on, it was never even turned on for use and never used as an e-collar invisible fence, and the vet, well she uses an e-collar herself and recommends them to her clients, so that's the real story of Rufus, haven't seen it misused for a couple of years cause its so well known till now and as usual no mention that the vet herself uses e-collars and recommends them to her clients.

Its a very old story everyone knows the truth, it means that of the many millions of these collars sold over many years one person did not follow the instructions not to leave them on for long periods and his the dog got nercrosis (bed sores), it sounded like he left the dog outside quite a lot one in millions is not a problem, it points to the safety of the collars compared to other things.

Originally Posted by Laudenham

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Youtube video set, factual info is easy to find if you look around -

E-collars, training by touch
http://tinyurl.com/4mrn9r

Originally Posted by karen

That Utube link by Laudenham is very informative. Thank god some people are informed.

Originally Posted by clare7577

I went to fit a job with my husband the other day ,the lady bred dogs.She had a number of dogs in a enclosure i went to see them i noticed that they had collars with black boxes attatched to them.As i was stroking one the lady said "oh,im trying out those bio-flow magnetic collars,because my dogs are old and have joint problems"i knew that these wernt them!!as i stroked them i felt under the black box and there were two metal spikes going into the fur!!obviously e-collars!so why the lie???If people believe in them and use them why deny it!!is it cos they know they shouldnt?