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Old 07-05-2008, 06:22 AM
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Re: E-Collars

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Youtube video set, factual info is easy to find if you look around -

E-collars, training by touch
http://tinyurl.com/4mrn9r
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Old 07-05-2008, 06:42 AM
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Re: E-Collars

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Wow, why is everybody about not learning about e-collars? and the rufus post??? that story is well know, it was an invisible fence collar, it was never turned on and the guy left it on for days on end in the rain, the dog got necrosis, the vet was a friend of the owners from school, she recommended the invisible fence collar. When Rufus developed Necrosis, due to leaving the collar on for days on end, she wrote him the letter which was only for the store he got it from and she was trying to help her one time school friend to get him a refund, she had no idea her letter would end up on the net. She was not qualified to confirm burning and then when trouble started for her changed her story to acid burns due to battery leakage because the collar he been out in the rain for days, but, that was his fault for leaving the collar on, it was never even turned on for use and never used as an e-collar invisible fence, and the vet, well she uses an e-collar herself and recommends them to her clients, so that's the real story of Rufus, haven't seen it misused for a couple of years cause its so well known till now and as usual no mention that the vet herself uses e-collars and recommends them to her clients.

Its a very old story everyone knows the truth, it means that of the many millions of these collars sold over many years one person did not follow the instructions not to leave them on for long periods and his the dog got nercrosis (bed sores), it sounded like he left the dog outside quite a lot one in millions is not a problem, it points to the safety of the collars compared to other things.
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Youtube video set, factual info is easy to find if you look around -

E-collars, training by touch
http://tinyurl.com/4mrn9r
very fair point as everyone knows all ya read on the net aint true........however i still dont like the idea of e-collers and i dont think i could use one myself
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:09 AM
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That Utube link by Laudenham is very informative. Thank god some people are informed.
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:14 AM
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I went to fit a job with my husband the other day ,the lady bred dogs.She had a number of dogs in a enclosure i went to see them i noticed that they had collars with black boxes attatched to them.As i was stroking one the lady said "oh,im trying out those bio-flow magnetic collars,because my dogs are old and have joint problems"i knew that these wernt them!!as i stroked them i felt under the black box and there were two metal spikes going into the fur!!obviously e-collars!so why the lie???If people believe in them and use them why deny it!!is it cos they know they shouldnt?
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:17 AM
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That Utube link by Laudenham is very informative. Thank god some people are informed.
People are informed and will make there own choices in life,

I prefer Positive Reinforcement not cruelty!!!
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Old 15-05-2008, 09:19 AM
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I went to fit a job with my husband the other day ,the lady bred dogs.She had a number of dogs in a enclosure i went to see them i noticed that they had collars with black boxes attatched to them.As i was stroking one the lady said "oh,im trying out those bio-flow magnetic collars,because my dogs are old and have joint problems"i knew that these wernt them!!as i stroked them i felt under the black box and there were two metal spikes going into the fur!!obviously e-collars!so why the lie???If people believe in them and use them why deny it!!is it cos they know they shouldnt?
It makes you wonder doesn't it,some people see them as a quick fix soluton and can't be bothered putting in time and effort,the sooner there banned the better - any numpty can get hold of them
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Old 15-05-2008, 10:39 AM
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Re: E-Collars

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Old 15-05-2008, 10:49 AM
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Re: E-Collars

there nasty devices a neigbour of mine put one on a 6 month old to stop him from barking all i heard was a huge whelp needless to say they havnt the dog any more
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Old 15-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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At first I thought they were the correction collars with the spray in them or something similar, I didn't realise that they had spikes on them that would stab the dog.

I'm sure if someone stabbed their dog with a fork everytime it didn't behave then they'd soon be hauled over hot coals for doing this, and this is what these things seem to do or have I got the wrong end of the stick so to speak?
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Old 15-05-2008, 01:53 PM
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Re: E-Collars

I do think that there can be a time and a place for these devices but only if they are in the correct hands. There are too many people out there who don't know how to use these tools. I have seen rattle bottles used completely inappropriately and I hate some forms of treat training. Yes use them as positive reinforcement but, you get those that can only get their dog to come to them if they have a treat.

Point is, everything can have its place but at the same time in the wrong hands can be a complete disaster.
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