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Old 31-01-2009, 10:28 AM
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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I am currently looking for a new addition and would be fine with a cross breed, the problem i have is that i want a small dog and all my local rescues seem to have the medium to large cross breed ,so it looks like im going to have to spend a hefty amount to get a small dog, i would luv to got to a rescue and have a small x reed but cant seem to locate one (i live in the midlands ifanyone can help with my search)
Once you've decided on the breed you want, could you not go to that breed rescue site? just a thought.
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Old 31-01-2009, 10:33 AM
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

bit off original topic but

why do people pay 950 for a labradoodle??.
when you can get a health tested lab for 650 or a health tested standard poodle for 500-600.
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Old 31-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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that is true, dogs have been breed with the intent for pets! If you look over the history of dogs and how certain breeds came about, the purpose was for pets or guard dogs/working dogs/hunting dogs/ etc.... This is well known!
Yes it is well known but look back into the history and you will find it's alot more complicated than that.

Breeders who decided to cross breed to make a new breed already had a standard of what there dogs should look like etc,they would then keep dogs which resembled what they desired from the litter,to breed again,any which didn't were culled.
It takes many many generations to breed true to type, look at the NI,this breed was started 20 years ago,yes they have a standard,but look at the dogs,they are all very different in type and have major health issues,which in all honesty was to be expected when you use foundation dogs with health issues.These dogs have been very closely bred,some inbred,Mother/son, daughter/father, brother/sister matings,which has doubled up on problems within the lines,dogs dying at young ages,puppies dying,yet alot of folks believe crossbreeds are healthier than peds,I have yet to see any evidence of this.
To bring in fresh blood you don't need to crossbreed,you just need to use a dog who has no common ancestors with the bitch,outcrossing.

I had planned on doing a grandfather/grandaughter mating,keeping a bitch from the litter,then outcrossing to my own dog because the pup's lines would have been tight,meaning I would have needed to go out.
I would then have kept a pup from this litter and then I would have had the choice to use dogs from either side depending on what I would have been looking for and what they could add in terms of quality.

Some breeds are simply incompatable to cross,which in itself can create alot of problems,not just with health issues,such as eye conditions or H/D,but construction problems.
Both poodles and Labs have health issues,both suffer with H/D and eye conditions,now to breed with out testing for known conditions in both breeds is irresponsible.

Too many dogs are bred in this country,both crossbreeds and pedigrees,not from responsible breeders but from those who simply don't care,from those who think they can jump on the bandwagon and make a quick buck.
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Old 31-01-2009, 11:21 AM
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

Is there a breed in the world which actually doesnt have any health problems at all?

Again when u go by health problems....no dogs, if its pedigree or cross, should be bred.
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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Is there a breed in the world which actually doesnt have any health problems at all?
To be honest all breeds have issues,obviously some breeds are more healthy than others and good Breeders are constantly working hard to eliminate conditions from breeds by testing.
All breeders should take advantage of the tests.They are there to help us breed the healthiest dogs we can.

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Again when u go by health problems....no dogs, if its pedigree or cross, should be bred.
Totally agree,unless you breed a carrier to a clear and then test all pups before they go to new homes.
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

Well a lot of deliberate Crossbreeds I am totally against. Here is the newest one to hit the UK from across the Pond
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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I am currently looking for a new addition and would be fine with a cross breed, the problem i have is that i want a small dog and all my local rescues seem to have the medium to large cross breed ,so it looks like im going to have to spend a hefty amount to get a small dog, i would luv to got to a rescue and have a small x reed but cant seem to locate one (i live in the midlands ifanyone can help with my search)
Hi

I think Many Tears Rescue maybe able to help you contact Sylvia she is one lovely lady.
They have many beautiful dogs and puppies looking for that forever home.
I wish you the best of luck in your search.

Here's a link to Many Tears i support this charity as i know they are fab.
Many Tears Animal Rescue - Supported by Burns Pet Nutrition
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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I would say so - but it would need to be made a 'sticky'
there is one on buying a puppy at the top of this section
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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I must make it clear, although that is why the labradoodle was originally bred, not all of them are allergy friendly - despite what some unscrupulous breeders will tell you. I'm lucky, my two spoodles do not moult but the breeder did tell me she couldn't guarantee it and personally it didn't matter to me.
The OHs cousin has one in Canada. They were after a hypoallergenic dog. They have got a walking hair factory. 30mins in that house and you come out covered in more hair than a dog basket after 5 years of use. They have a lint roller permanantly by the front door.

Such a happy dog, amazing temprament, so much so they are looking to get another, although seriously have their fingers crossed re: the hair issue
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Re: Why do people cross breed dogs?

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The labrador / poodle cross was trialled in Australia in an attempt to get a non shedding guide dog. The trial was abandoned because it did not produce consistent enough results.... some shed others didnt'. I remember reading recently that the guy who originally proposed and trialled the labradoodle is appalled and saddened at how the popularity of 'labradoodle' has taken off. Interestingly, the most successful guide dog cross has never had any popularity as a pet - just goes to show what a fancy name can do....
Hi Dundee,

I'm afraid that's not correct. That misinformation originally appeared on the Poodle Club of America website about 5 years ago, and has been popping up in various versions ever since.

Although Labradors remain the most frequently used for Guide Dog work, Labradoodles are often used by Guide Dog Associations here in Australia, including Guide Dogs Victoria (a division of the Royal Blind Society). I belong to a social group in which one of the members is a visually impaired woman who has a Labradoodle Guide Dog that was trained by the Association for the Blind of WA, as does another member of her family.

Labradoodles are also used by many other Guide Dog groups around the world, including Guide Dogs America, Guide Dogs of Texas, and Guide Dogs UK. There are some links to these Associations websites and specific references to the Labradoodles they use at:

Guide Dogs UK
Guide Dogs Victoria
The Association for the Blind of Western Australia (Guide Dogs WA)
Guide Dogs America
Guide Dogs of Texas

I've also heard Wally Conron (the Australian chap who first bred Labradoodles as Guide Dogs) speak, and there is NO WAY that he regrets doing so. He is immensely proud of the work he's done, and rightfully so. He has worked with my own breeder, who has many dogs that have gone on to become Guide, Assistance and Therapy Dogs, and he recommended them. What Wally is saddened by is greedy puppy millers who have tried to cash in on the popularity of Labradoodles, the same as they have done with many popular purebreds in the past.

There are many visually impaired and other people with disabilities around the world who would not have the quality of life that they enjoy today without their Labradoodle Guide and Assistance Dogs, and the hard work and dedication of the people involved with the Guide Dogs Associations who train them, and I for one applaud them.

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Linny, Buffy and Spike
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