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I love seeing the traditionally docked breeds with tails - they look so much better. I hate needless docking - it is for the owners vanity not for the good of the dogs. I agree with docking working dogs, even if it means a few from the litter still end up in pet homes - as is likely to happen but is much more preferable to the damage that can be inflicted on a tail.

It is a mutilation for cosmetic reasons and those who like them will get used to them with their tails eventually. It's like ear cropping which looks so unnatural and ugly - anyone living in a country that allows it, will think uncropped ears look strange.

Maybe not but there are rules for transporting / travelling the pregnant bitch (last 10% of pregnancy i believe) -transporting mum and pups all over the place is possibly a lot more traumatic for the new family than tail docking imo and i wouldnt want to risk the stress on my Bitch and her pups, so have chosen not to breed my spaniels at all unless the docking ban is lifted.

Lovely to hear everyones views, it is however a topic that your either for and against, but good to discuss in a diplomatic way

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its funny ive just had 2 people in the house who work there terriers and once they saw my puppies still had there tails ,they didnt give them a second look ,they have seen how damaged a tail can get working and would not concider them ,its like almost dooming a pup into being a lap dog because they have tail

I would not even consider buying a Spaniel with a full tail.

Not because I either like or dislike full tails.

Purely because my dogs are worked on, and exercised on, heath land that consists of a lot of brambles. They thrash their way through the cover and come out with cuts on their faces, tongues bleeding but a wagging docked tail that is undamaged.

I have had a full tailed Springer who damaged her tail so badly in her first 18 months of life, filled with pain from her damaged tail, that she had to have a GA to have her tail amputated. Whilst she was under she had her dew claws removed also as she had damaged these over and over again.

All that pain and trauma of an operation could have been avoided by a very small procedure at 1 or 2 days old.

Have people who decry the docking of spaniels ever witnessed the damage they do to their tails, because if they have and still say it's best not to dock then I'm sorry but I do not think they have the dog's best interest at heart.

And as for foxes damaging their tails, you will never see a fox charging through cover as a spaniel does. They hunt relatively open ground.

Steve

[QUOTE=Dundee;432578]I love seeing the traditionally docked breeds with tails - they look so much better. I hate needless docking - it is for the owners vanity not for the good of the dogs. I agree with docking working dogs, even if it means a few from the litter still end up in pet homes - as is likely to happen but is much more preferable to the damage that can be inflicted on a tail.

It is a mutilation for cosmetic reasons and those who like them will get used to them with their tails eventually. It's like ear cropping which looks so unnatural and ugly - anyone living in a country that allows it, will think uncropped ears look strange./QUOTE][

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[QUOTE]I would not even consider buying a Spaniel with a full tail.

Not because I either like or dislike full tails.

Purely because my dogs are worked on, and exercised on, heath land that consists of a lot of brambles. They thrash their way through the cover and come out with cuts on their faces, tongues bleeding but a wagging docked tail that is undamaged.

I have had a full tailed Springer who damaged her tail so badly in her first 18 months of life, filled with pain from her damaged tail, that she had to have a GA to have her tail amputated. Whilst she was under she had her dew claws removed also as she had damaged these over and over again.

All that pain and trauma of an operation could have been avoided by a very small procedure at 1 or 2 days old.

Have people who decry the docking of spaniels ever witnessed the damage they do to their tails, because if they have and still say it's best not to dock then I'm sorry but I do not think they have the dog's best interest at heart.

And as for foxes damaging their tails, you will never see a fox charging through cover as a spaniel does. They hunt relatively open ground.

Steve./[QUOTE]

Can't go through all this again but agree totally with these

Agree!

agree on this one too....to put the pups and mom through all that stress surely isnt worth it imo

I have not heard of any apology. Do you have a link?

If there is a valid health-related reason for docking, then fair enough. However, I am absolutely opposed to any form of mutilation on dogs for purely cosmetic purposes, be it tail docking, ear cropping or anything else. It is cruel, barbaric and unnecessary, and I can't understand why anyone would support it.



Let's keep those tails wagging!

Here here.

My recent addition a ex-stud working JRT has no tail at all. He's a friendly little chap but it's such a shame he hasn't got a tail to wag, not the same seeing a little bum wobbling. There is nothing more beautiful than seeing a Rottie or Dobie with a lovely long tail, they look 100 times better!