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Old 21-02-2012, 06:31 PM
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Re: The philosophy that a dog is lower than humans?

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Basically it boils down to this.... you HAVE to make this call- who would you put to sleep your mother/husband/sister/brother/best mate or your dog.

(This is assuming you love the human and the dog)
I guess it all comes down to the dog. Oi, if only dogs weren't dominated by humans.
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Old 21-02-2012, 06:38 PM
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Re: The philosophy that a dog is lower than humans?

I have to say as well it's not only americans who treat their dogs like kids, i certainly treat my two as furkids, and i'm sorry but i do my bit to help others so I will always have dogs, and it's not going to make any difference to 'starving kids'

So do i think dogs are lower then people, in short no!
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Re: The philosophy that a dog is lower than humans?

I dont hold with the idea that any creature is lower or higher than any other, we all have our different slots to fill in the world. I love my dogs, I love the time we share together, I love the fact that they are happy to work alongside me. I never, however, think of them as anything other than dogs, why would I do so, for that's what they are, and to think of them in any other way, as some seem to, would be, I believe, doing them a great injustice.
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I dont hold with the idea that any creature is lower or higher than any other, we all have our different slots to fill in the world. I love my dogs, I love the time we share together, I love the fact that they are happy to work alongside me. I never, however, think of them as anything other than dogs, why would I do so, for that's what they are, and to think of them in any other way, as some seem to, would be, I believe, doing them a great injustice.
Absolutely this ^^^^^; just put into words by Pete far, far more eloquently than I could manage.
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Absolutely this ^^^^^; just put into words by Pete far, far more eloquently than I could manage.
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I dont hold with the idea that any creature is lower or higher than any other, we all have our different slots to fill in the world. I love my dogs, I love the time we share together, I love the fact that they are happy to work alongside me. I never, however, think of them as anything other than dogs, why would I do so, for that's what they are, and to think of them in any other way, as some seem to, would be, I believe, doing them a great injustice.
Yeah, I agree. It'd be genetically wrong if my mom gave birth to a Siberian Husky anyway
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Woah- whilst I agree that dogs can be family members, surely a humans life (especially that of one known to us) HAS to be more important than that of a dog? So long as the human in question was a reasonable one- not a murderer, rapist etc

Or where do you draw the line? Cat? Hamster? Pig (as clever as a dog- in that they have the capacity to learn- can be trained) but we slaughter them daily? any other pet species? Monkey- very similar to ourselves?
Why? I don't see that humans are any more important than any other animal on the planet, and let's not forget that humans are animals.

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I dont hold with the idea that any creature is lower or higher than any other, we all have our different slots to fill in the world. I love my dogs, I love the time we share together, I love the fact that they are happy to work alongside me. I never, however, think of them as anything other than dogs, why would I do so, for that's what they are, and to think of them in any other way, as some seem to, would be, I believe, doing them a great injustice.
I don't think one is doing a dog any favours by not treating it like a dog. If you don't you would be serving him egg and chips and expecting him to sit and watch telly!

Certainly they are dogs, and they should be treated as dogs in that we buy them dog food and take them for nice walks and places they like to go, not places we like to go. Just like we would take our children to a theme park though we would rather be at home on the internet or watching telly.

But that doesn't mean they are worth any less, or that they don't mean as much to us. If I still had small children, they would be more important than the dogs, but I don't and I don't consider my adult children to be dependent on me as the dogs are. My son is, of course, but even he knows who comes first.

When a social worker was assessing him for possible independent living, she asked what would be the first thing he would do if there was a fire. He replied straight away: "I'd get the dogs out". She looked quite astounded and asked: "what about dialing the fire brigade?" "Yes," says Ian. "But I'd get the dogs out first".
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Yeah, I agree. It'd be genetically wrong if my mom gave birth to a Siberian Husky anyway
Hmmmm. not quite getting the comparison here??
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Why? I don't see that humans are any more important than any other animal on the planet, and let's not forget that humans are animals.



I don't think one is doing a dog any favours by not treating it like a dog. If you don't you would be serving him egg and chips and expecting him to sit and watch telly!

Certainly they are dogs, and they should be treated as dogs in that we buy them dog food and take them for nice walks and places they like to go, not places we like to go. Just like we would take our children to a theme park though we would rather be at home on the internet or watching telly.

But that doesn't mean they are worth any less, or that they don't mean as much to us. If I still had small children, they would be more important than the dogs, but I don't and I don't consider my adult children to be dependent on me as the dogs are. My son is, of course, but even he knows who comes first.

When a social worker was assessing him for possible independent living, she asked what would be the first thing he would do if there was a fire. He replied straight away: "I'd get the dogs out". She looked quite astounded and asked: "what about dialing the fire brigade?" "Yes," says Ian. "But I'd get the dogs out first".
One of my pet peeves is that girly girls put their chihuahuas or yorkies or other toy breed dogs in their purse all day long...

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Hmmmm. not quite getting the comparison here??
Our parents don't treat our dog like it's their child, cuz it isn't and never will be. Hope I don't sound confusing.
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