Pet Forums Community

Go Back   Pet Forums Community > Dog Forums > Dog Chat

Dog Chat Chat about our beloved dogs and puppies. Discuss anything dog related in this forum.

Registered users don't see this ad - Register Now (It's free!)
Like Tree23Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2012, 09:50 AM
Fade to Grey's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: London
Posts: 3,228
Images: 6
Fade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of lightFade to Grey is a glorious beacon of light
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

any idiot that puts their face to a dog they don't know is a complete moron. and let me guess the dog is now being destroyed because of this woman's obvious incompetence.
Reply With Quote
Registered users don't see this ad - Register Now (It's free!)
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2012, 02:27 PM
DogLover1981's Avatar
Pet Forums Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 837
DogLover1981 will become famous soon enoughDogLover1981 will become famous soon enoughDogLover1981 will become famous soon enough
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

The dog is not being euthanized. He will be in quarantine for 10 days to make sure he doesn't have rabies. I'm doubtful the dog has rabies. I don't know about the UK, but in the US a dog would need to attack a person unprovoked to be destroyed. The TV station that this incident happened at just aired a segment about how to properly greet dogs, etc.

http://www.9news.com/video/144142924...about-incident
__________________
-Dave-
You might be a redneck if your dog passes gas and you claim it. - Jeff Foxworthy
You might be a redneck if you walk your dog and you both use the tree at the corner. - Jeff Foxworthy
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2012, 08:26 PM
DogLover1981's Avatar
Pet Forums Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 837
DogLover1981 will become famous soon enoughDogLover1981 will become famous soon enoughDogLover1981 will become famous soon enough
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

Video of it on youtube. The dog did gave a fair amount of warning to the news anchor.
__________________
-Dave-
You might be a redneck if your dog passes gas and you claim it. - Jeff Foxworthy
You might be a redneck if you walk your dog and you both use the tree at the corner. - Jeff Foxworthy

Last edited by DogLover1981; 11-02-2012 at 09:41 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2012, 08:57 PM
Pet Forums Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 422
JessiesGirl will become famous soon enough
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

Quote:
Originally Posted by DogLover1981 View Post
It sounds like the news anchor wasn't too smart. I will watch the video when I'm on a computer with sound.

Rescued dog bites TV anchor during broadcast - TODAY Pets & Animals - TODAY.com
Haven't watched the video, as I don't want to!

But from what I have seen in the stills taken from the video:

-Dog was on a lead and had his back pressed up against the owner, with strangers on either side (fireman and news anchor). So he had NO way to avoid or escape the news anchor when she approached.

-News anchor got down off her chair, knelt beside dog and then tried to either nuzzle or kiss him. Again, dog had NO way to avoid this unwanted invasion, so he nipped.

-While I in no way mean to minimize the destruction of ths poor woman's face, this dog gave a WARNING nip, not an "Attack". He caught her on the lip, and she was gravely injured. But if he had MEANT to cause harm, trust, she'd be dead about now.

-The dog's owner and the anchor are both to blame here. You can tell even from the still photos that the dog was uneasy. Why didn't the owner say anything before the anchor got down off her chair and went to kiss/nuzzle the dog?! Owner is partially at fault here.

-Anchor was a bleeding idiot to corner a dog and shove her face into his. But the owner should have tried to intervene and he did not.
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2012, 09:15 PM
Werehorse's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 2,122
Werehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really niceWerehorse is just really nice
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

The owner seemed like a bit of wet blanket to me. I agree he should have been more aware of his dog and done more to protect him.
__________________
Please sponser my OH to run 10 marathons in 10 days round Lake Windermere starting 11th May 2012 - in aid of Brathay Trust who do fantastic work with disadvantaged young people.

Sponser him here http://www.justgiving.com/Stuart-Pyper

Sponser £10 or more and get a pencil sketch of your dog... see this thread for more details - http://www.petforums.co.uk/dog-chat/...charity-3.html

Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 12-02-2012, 08:50 AM
Burrowzig's Avatar
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4,610
Burrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to allBurrowzig is a name known to all
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

If the owner were anything other than a publicity-seeking idiot, he would never have let his dog into a TV studio, so soon after a traumatic event, in the first place.
simplysardonic likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 12-02-2012, 09:13 AM
Spud the Bull Terrier's Avatar
Pet Forums Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Up North
Posts: 386
Spud the Bull Terrier has a spectacular aura aboutSpud the Bull Terrier has a spectacular aura aboutSpud the Bull Terrier has a spectacular aura aboutSpud the Bull Terrier has a spectacular aura about
Re: Dog bites news anchor in the face

To me this is just one off those things that happens and all parties need to take away a lesson from it.

I don't think any one is really to blame.

Yes it was stupid of the news anchor to try to kiss the dog, but not everyone is an expert at dog body language, and not every one understands that it’s a bad idea to get that close to a strange dog. Even people who know dogs make mistakes.

Maybe the owner should have seen his dog was stressed and intervened but being in a television studio was probably as stressful an experience for the owner as it was for the dog. perhaps he was distracted by being on TV or he found it difficult to tell an authority figure(the news presenter) to back off, or perhaps it all just happened so quickly that he just did not have time to think.

And looking at the dog being in a TV studio, must have been stressful enough, then having a stranger sticking their face in yours was probably the cherry on the cake. The bit does not look aggressive, more of a warning to back off.

IMHO its easy to criticise people when you sat at home watching a video back and you have time to study the dogs body language, and think about how you would have reacted. But in the real world people make mistakes, owners misjudge their own dogs, and non dog owners are oblivious to a dogs body language. And sometimes things happen so quickly that you don’t even realise what is going on until it is to late. I bet this kind of thing happens all the time, it just happened that this was caught on TV.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 12-02-2012, 01:33 PM
Pet Forums VIP Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,461
Manoy Moneelil has a spectacular aura aboutManoy Moneelil has a spectacular aura aboutManoy Moneelil has a spectacular aura aboutManoy Moneelil has a spectacular aura about
Lightbulb Nothing has been learnt.

This is interesting as it provides a follow-up from an American point of view with comment on the "conclusion" offered by some of the TV pundits (last two paragraphs for those that can't read much).


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cesar Millan
Pit bulls were in the news again this week, and as usual, not for the best reasons. A lot of the people who visit CesarsWay.com began tweeting us Friday morning about a McDonald’s ad they had heard on the radio. The ad said that trying a new menu item was less risky than other activities—like petting a stray pit bull. Pit bull lovers were understandably angry with McDonald’s and within hours a Facebook protest had gone up and people began calling the McDonald’s corporate headquarters to complain. That same afternoon, McDonald’s pulled the ad and publicly apologized. It was wonderful to see what people can accomplish when they put their minds to it and raise their voices.

The next big pit bull story of the week did not have a happy ending. It came from Denver when television anchor Kyle Dyer was reporting on a story about an Argentine Mastiff named Max who had been rescued from an icy lake by a firefighter. She was reuniting the dog, his owner, and the firefighter in the studio, but things went bad when she tried to kiss Max at the end of the interview and he bit her, sending her to the hospital.

It became a big story on many news programs, including The Insider, which contacted me to appear as an expert on dog behavior. I was very honored to be asked, but was a little disappointed when I saw that before I spoke, they showed a graphic that said “Who’s to blame?” When they interviewed me, I tried to choose my words very carefully, because to me an incident like this isn’t about blame, but how to learn a lesson from what happened.

They did show two of the most important things I said about why this may have happened. First of all, if you have never been in a studio during taping, it’s a crazy energy. There are people running around, strange noises, bright lights, and lots of shouting. Even for humans, it can freak you out, so you can imagine what it’s like for a dog to be in that environment.

The other thing to always remember when meeting ANY dog is the rule, “no touch, no talk, no eye contact”. You have to let the dog approach you and show him that you aren’t a threat. With Max, you could tell before the bite there was going to be trouble, because, she was holding his face with both hands and he was getting more and more uncomfortable, and when she leaned in to kiss him a the end, he thought it was an aggressive act and bit her.

We have to remember it’s a dog, and they don’t understand it’s a sweet Valentine’s Day kiss. They just know they’re in a crazy place and someone is holding their collar and their face and not letting them get used to their surroundings. Finally, a human is invading their space with their hands and mouth. Max was clearly stressed out, and he got to a breaking point. Kyle Dyer clearly didn’t think she was upsetting the dog, and clearly meant well, but when you look at the situation from Max’s point of view, you can see how things went wrong.

What really disappointed me about The Insider story was the commentary by anchor Kevin Frazier at the end of the piece. He said the lesson to be learned was that people needed to control their big dogs. He said in his neighborhood there were “people not taking care of their bigger, dangerous dogs and letting them run wild.” This was absolutely NOT the lesson to take from this story. What happened had nothing to do with the size of the dog or the breed of the dog. This could have happened with any breed or any size of dog who was put in the same situation as Max. Just like in the McDonald’s commercial, the problem wasn’t that it isn’t risky to pet stray dogs, it’s that pit bulls aren’t any more risky than any other breed.

I hope when stories like these happen again, we don’t use them to reinforce prejudices about breeds. The lesson in these stories isn’t to be afraid of one type of dog or another, but to learn how to approach a dog, whether it’s a stray or just a dog you haven’t met before. By learning that, we learn how not to hurt the dog or ourselves. Prejudice just hurts everyone.

Stay calm and assertive,

Cesar
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Sponsored Ads


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All posts made on this forum are NOT monitored.
All times are GMT. The time now is 10:19 PM.


PetForums is part of the Pet Media group of websites including | Pets4Homes | PetsLocally


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 RC 2