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Old 09-02-2012, 11:44 AM
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

I'd feel sorry for all the sweet natured dogs (of any breed) that would have to be muzzled. It's also not going to stop out of control dogs from inflicting damage
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

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Personally I do not have an issue with all dogs having to be muzzled in public- many seem to. It would save shed loads of grief.
It would do nothing about dogs that escape from their homes and attack, like the current cases of the London man, or the woman who was killed by her own dog.

Having a microchip implanted wouldn't have made any difference anyway.

And what about microchips that fail? Ziggy's on her 3rd.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:47 AM
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Sorry again as in again along with others, not again from yourself.

If it was brought in to being law would you still not muzzle on principle?
Nope - because I believe that if compulsary muzzling is inforced itl only be time until compulsary leash laws and severe restrictions on where you can go in general would then be push through, that not an environment I would want to live in or something which I would willingly accept.

If the UK was moving that way I would honestly move to our Farm in Poland.

Rotties (and crosses) have to be 'registered' there but other than that no restrictions.

I would not on purposely flout the law (Im not that kind of person) BUT I wouldnt want to live in a country where such restraints are forced upon responsible dog owners due to the failings of authorities to curb our chavtastic and disposable culture. It wouldnt solve the problems we currently have and the Police dont have the man power to enforce it.
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

I think micro chipping all puppies and dogs is a step forward but I also think that the breeders should do it and take the responsibility of transferring the details as well. That would well allow the country to have at least a slight control long term. That way, it would be easy to find the person responsible for abandoning their dog on the street,… Obviously not everyone will follow the law but most will. Don’t forget that many EU countries have made dog microchipping mandatory ages ago and it did help a lot with abandoned dogs. If they later decide to rehome a dog, it should be owner’s responsibility to change the details.
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

This is where the rot not only starts but is also compounded.

I'm not responsible for these people but the law is slowly making me and every other responsible Dog owner accountable for them!

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This is where the rot not only starts but is also compounded.

I'm not responsible for these people but the law is slowly making me and every other responsible Dog owner accountable for them!

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Yes, once again, why should the majority suffer because of the minority??? And these owners/dogs are in the minority, with dog attacks highlighted enormously by the Media - the Media can manipulate the general public ferociously.......................
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

Thank you for a good debate.

It seems that the threat of your dog being taken away and destroyed if it attacked doesn't seem enough of a threat for some people to get their dogs trained and under control. No threat on dogs would work as some people don't seem to care.

So how do we do this? Impose fines, massive fines for people who don't keep their dogs under control. An aggressive dog still needs to be PTS sadly, however the owners should also get a couple of thousand quid fine, and I suppose microchipping would match dog to owner.

Would this work better? Would this deter people more from either producing dangerous dogs or not training them well enough?
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

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Thank you for a good debate.

It seems that the threat of your dog being taken away and destroyed if it attacked doesn't seem enough of a threat for some people to get their dogs trained and under control. No threat on dogs would work as some people don't seem to care.

So how do we do this? Impose fines, massive fines for people who don't keep their dogs under control. An aggressive dog still needs to be PTS sadly, however the owners should also get a couple of thousand quid fine, and I suppose microchipping would match dog to owner.

Would this work better? Would this deter people more from either producing dangerous dogs or not training them well enough?
Do you think the types of folk who are really that irresponsible have a couple of thousand pounds? (they would be made to pay £2.50 a week, and would barely notice it) Actually does anyone have that sort of cash laying aroundLOL
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Re: What should the government do about dangerous dogs?

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Thank you for a good debate.

It seems that the threat of your dog being taken away and destroyed if it attacked doesn't seem enough of a threat for some people to get their dogs trained and under control. No threat on dogs would work as some people don't seem to care.

So how do we do this? Impose fines, massive fines for people who don't keep their dogs under control. An aggressive dog still needs to be PTS sadly, however the owners should also get a couple of thousand quid fine, and I suppose microchipping would match dog to owner.

Would this work better? Would this deter people more from either producing dangerous dogs or not training them well enough?
Not picking a fight, just interested, do you think every dog that is deemed dangerous should be put to sleep immeditately or do you think they should try and rehabilitate to begin with? I mean if you get a 'dangerous' GSD in should they maybe look at channeling the aggression and maybe look at it becoming a police dog, security guards dog etc Surely all a police dog is, is a 'dangerous dog' under control?
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