Other than ebay, or should i wait till Crufts (they will be cheaper there maybe?) i think they had them on offer at LKA but i was a bit sceptical over the sizes, although the man assured me they have sizes for all dogs and have never had any not fit, daisy is quite small but has a broad chest so i didn't think the xxs would fit and the xs looked so much bigger i think it would drown her, but i really want to give one a go now