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Old 07-12-2008, 09:00 AM
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Aggression can be easily sorted.

Claim the bowl. Make sure she knows who is boss.
Don't take the bowl instantly because that could cause trouble, and obviously you don't want to stick your hand in there so use your foot. or someother object. Basically when she is eating place your foot in front of her so she cannot accsess the food. Do not be aggressive or say anything, do it calmly. slowly move your foot towards her so she backs off. She may try to access the food by running around, move your foot to stop her. When she has backed off fully take the bowl away. When she has calmed down fully, whether that is lying down or just sitting there, give it back. Repeat this exercise until you can take it away without growling.

As for your other dog to have respect for food. After your terrier has learnt that it is yours. Instead of giving it back, give it to your other dog. But still stand between them with calm energy, so as to project power instead of nervousness which causes weakness. Let the other dog eat all the food, then let it go off somewere else and then feed your terrier.

I would try make this dog the lowest dog of the pack, as it seems to think it has a high status at the moment. Make sure it eats after everyone else (including your other dog) Also cover other areas which show dominance. The barking at other people needs to be sorted. Maybe she shouldn't be allowed on the couch when she wants. All this amounts to power

Hope i helped. Sorry about the post before. I just get wound up as i see so many terriers rehomed because of this situation - well so many dogs infact- I have a terrier and she is my world, she used to be food aggressive but i sorted it right when i got her. Fixed in a mtter of days. You got to understand terriers, especially a rescue could be even more fesity than the breeds itsself.

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Old 07-12-2008, 09:04 AM
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Re: Home urgently needed.

when i got my patterdale pup,she was eating something and i went to take it away and she growled and went for me,i said no very firmly,pretended to eat the bone myself,gave it back,left it for a while and went to get it again,this time she was fine so i praised herevery now and then i will touch her when she`s eating,never had a problem since.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:19 AM
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Yes it does........do you have kids????.......i hate the thought of having to rehome pets and think it should not be taken lightly, she was kind enough to give it a home in the first place and has taken it away atleast from an environment where it has been neglected...if this dog has other underlying problems that she does not know about and it results in her child being hurt after this 'warning' she would never forgive herself.

It happens all the time where children are thought of as toys and attacked.

Stop attacking this woman for wanting to rehome an animal that may be a danger to small children and give constructive advice!
Im not attacking anyone. I do have kids yes a 4 yr old and a 6 yr old and they have grown up with animals.

Im new hear and dont want to start trouble but this is about the dog and its problems it hasnt attacked any children or shown any aggression to any, so i dont see the point of trying to make it sound like it would and being overly emotional about it.

I think some very good practical advice has been given on here and I couldnt add any more.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:45 AM
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when i got my patterdale pup,she was eating something and i went to take it away and she growled and went for me,i said no very firmly,pretended to eat the bone myself,gave it back,left it for a while and went to get it again,this time she was fine so i praised herevery now and then i will touch her when she`s eating,never had a problem since.
Great tactic...Cesar Mihlan also does this...it lets your dog knows who is boss...you may suffer a few nips but sure enough the dog will get the idea
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:47 AM
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Aggression can be easily sorted.

Claim the bowl. Make sure she knows who is boss.
Don't take the bowl instantly because that could cause trouble, and obviously you don't want to stick your hand in there so use your foot. or someother object. Basically when she is eating place your foot in front of her so she cannot accsess the food. Do not be aggressive or say anything, do it calmly. slowly move your foot towards her so she backs off. She may try to access the food by running around, move your foot to stop her. When she has backed off fully take the bowl away. When she has calmed down fully, whether that is lying down or just sitting there, give it back. Repeat this exercise until you can take it away without growling.

As for your other dog to have respect for food. After your terrier has learnt that it is yours. Instead of giving it back, give it to your other dog. But still stand between them with calm energy, so as to project power instead of nervousness which causes weakness. Let the other dog eat all the food, then let it go off somewere else and then feed your terrier.

I would try make this dog the lowest dog of the pack, as it seems to think it has a high status at the moment. Make sure it eats after everyone else (including your other dog) Also cover other areas which show dominance. The barking at other people needs to be sorted. Maybe she shouldn't be allowed on the couch when she wants. All this amounts to power

Hope i helped. Sorry about the post before. I just get wound up as i see so many terriers rehomed because of this situation - well so many dogs infact- I have a terrier and she is my world, she used to be food aggressive but i sorted it right when i got her. Fixed in a mtter of days. You got to understand terriers, especially a rescue could be even more fesity than the breeds itsself.


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I appreciate the advice but they she tried to go for my other dog again in the garden not over food or anything, but i stopped her with the shake bottle, she went for him again this morning, luckly my dad was here and we manged to break the fight up the proper way. I know how to handle dogs, and they clearly do not get on. She needs to be the only pet, and the other owners painted her as this perfect little dog who did not have many issues, but she clearly does. If i wanted to get rid of her i would hand her back to the previous owners and not care, but they will only rehome her and lie to get her off their hands and she will go through this again and again, i know the rspca will do the very best for her and help her with all her issues and find a home without any other pets and she will get the full attention that she needs! Thats why it makes me cross when pepople put comments on here saying i am just trying to get rid of her, its not just food aggression, she wont let my dog do anything sit in his own bed, she is trying to dominate him, he does not like it and thats where the problems are. she is a very confused dog and i cant give her everything she needs which i eish i could.
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I appreciate the advice but they she tried to go for my other dog again in the garden not over food or anything, but i stopped her with the shake bottle, she went for him again this morning, luckly my dad was here and we manged to break the fight up the proper way. I know how to handle dogs, and they clearly do not get on. She needs to be the only pet, and the other owners painted her as this perfect little dog who did not have many issues, but she clearly does. If i wanted to get rid of her i would hand her back to the previous owners and not care, but they will only rehome her and lie to get her off their hands and she will go through this again and again, i know the rspca will do the very best for her and help her with all her issues and find a home without any other pets and she will get the full attention that she needs! Thats why it makes me cross when pepople put comments on here saying i am just trying to get rid of her, its not just food aggression, she wont let my dog do anything sit in his own bed, she is trying to dominate him, he does not like it and thats where the problems are. she is a very confused dog and i cant give her everything she needs which i eish i could.
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Old 07-12-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: Home urgently needed.

As the human in a family that includes dogs , or any animal for that matter , we provide food as would the main provider of any group of animals , we include them into our lives expecting them to rationalise like we do , but they are not humans without our thought process they will go by basic natural indtinct , The JRT is probably being food dominant for several reasons , it could be a dominant issue , trying to override the existing dog or it could be due to fear of loosing what she thinks is hers , JRT are known for being temperamental , its in thier manner to be a little snappy and for a little dog they have big personalities , often being misunderstood .
The reason i sudgested the method i did for feeding is so thet the JRT sees the human as the main source of giving food and if both dogs are treated equally at the same time it should counteract the agressivness towards the other dog as they will see each other more as equal , it may not work nothing is set in stone when it comes to these situations , but treating the dogs differently and feeding in seperate rooms as far as i can see is not adressing the issue its just removing the dogs from that experience of eating together so you will never get them to accept eating sisde by side ,
i have 2 labs a breed known for being food orientated , we had Daisy first and we adopted Jess a year ago , i never had issues with feeding them together right from day one they eat side by side and check each others dishes out when finished , i treat them the same they get fed the same , i am in charge of this and i remove thier dishes when finished , It can be done but it has to be sorted out not avoided .
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I have just seen your reply, i do make them feed after us at all times she is fine with me with food, and as soon as she walks away from her food even if she has not finished, she does not get feed until the next one is due. She is just so confused!
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I appreciate the advice but they she tried to go for my other dog again in the garden not over food or anything, but i stopped her with the shake bottle, she went for him again this morning, luckly my dad was here and we manged to break the fight up the proper way. I know how to handle dogs, and they clearly do not get on. She needs to be the only pet, and the other owners painted her as this perfect little dog who did not have many issues, but she clearly does. If i wanted to get rid of her i would hand her back to the previous owners and not care, but they will only rehome her and lie to get her off their hands and she will go through this again and again, i know the rspca will do the very best for her and help her with all her issues and find a home without any other pets and she will get the full attention that she needs! Thats why it makes me cross when pepople put comments on here saying i am just trying to get rid of her, its not just food aggression, she wont let my dog do anything sit in his own bed, she is trying to dominate him, he does not like it and thats where the problems are. she is a very confused dog and i cant give her everything she needs which i eish i could.
Hope i haven't made you cross. You asked for advise and opinions and that is what you have recd. We all work together on here and no one intends to make anyone feel bad. If you know what you need/want to do then you must do it regardless. I wish you all the luck in the decision you make and remember we only comment the way we do, as you would because we care about the animals. So again, sorry if I upset you at all it wasn't intentenial. Hope you continue to enjoy the forum. Kate xxx
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