Yes they have and I or anyone else won't deny it.

It was about both tbh, and if the KC do get the legislation then there won't be a DLRC

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Powerscourt Cocker Spaniels - Finding A Breeder

The DLRC and PPRC both have published a code of ethics,however unlike the Kennel Club Code of Ethics,these organisiations state we cannot enforce all conditions mentioned/listed.

So what's the point in having a code of ethics if it's not going to be enforced ?

And this is the sort of thing that goes on with the DLRC,
FRAUDULENT PEDIGREES

Through the Rottweiler 'grapevine' we have been informed that a MR. RUSSELL MAIR, BALLINGRY, FIFE, SCOTLAND is breeding and selling Rottweiler pups/dogs registered with the Dog Lover Registration Club UK Ltd., using fraudulent pedigree and registration certificates which states. Sire: ZORGS THE WRANGLER (DLRC Reg. No. 29374) - Dam: ARTIG HOT CARGO (DLRC Reg. No. 29375) having registered these two dogs as his own.

ZORGS THE WRANGLER was bred and owned by the Zorgs Kennels his entire life until his death in August 2001.

ARTIG HOT CARGO was bred by ourselves and also owned by Zorgs until her death in 2004, she was spayed in January 2002.

Both these dogs were Kennel Club registered and never registered with the DLRC UK Ltd. by their owners.

Only two litters were bred from the above dogs, one in 1999 and another in 2000. It appears that these two dogs owned by Zorgs Rottweilers are producing litters from their graves for the benefit of this R. MAIR who is using their pedigrees fraudulently.

All Zorgs dogs are DNA profiled which means any pups from their stock can be positively identified. DNA profiling can also identify the parentage of every individual pup in a mixed litter i.e. two different dogs mating the same bitch.

Anyone purchasing dogs from this 'breeder' MR. R. MAIR should be aware that they can prosecute him under the Trading Standards Act 2002, The Sale of Goods Act 1979 and because of deception under the Trade Description Act.

Hi again. Just caught up. The crux of the debate for me is that powers are being saught by an organisation that has a vested interest. That would be like putting Ford in charge of the ministry of cars (or the lunatics in charge of the asylum?) and so there would be no room for any alternative views to be aired. In effect an admission that the KC was right all along, everybody else was wrong and it will be the KC way or no way from now on.
A new body or a welfare only body would be the only way. That might be interesting.

Well I sent the DLRC an email Below,

To whom it may concern,
I am interested to know why you set up this petition regarding giving the KC Legislation to regulate breeding.
Is it because you will go out of business and loose revenue from your puppy farmers and backyard breeders,because good breeders do not breed as a business and they will only register pups with the KC.One of the KC's Regulations is Will not sell any dog to commercial dog wholesalers, retail pet dealers,it's a real shame the DLRC doesn't take the same approach,instead of allowing puppies to be bred by puppy farmers to then be sold on at puppy supermarkets.

I would interested in your response,
Many Thanks,

Their Reponse was,
Hello
No we do not condone or accept puppy farmers in any way, after seeing the BBC documentary i'm surprised you would want the kc in a position of power? their members culling healthy puppies because they are wrong colour or do not have ridges etc: also we do not think 'showing' dogs has any benefit to dogs do you? we have our own accredited breeders programme in place for the new year and we have our own code of ethics.
Do you think the kennel club having a monopoly would help matters?
puppy farmers have registered puppies with the kennel club long before we existed knowingly or not!
Didn't you see the documentary?
Kind regards
Deborah Winters
Co Director

My reply,

In That case could you please explain why puppies with your DLRC Registration are allowed to be sold through pet superstores?
Dogs 4 us been namely one of them ? It is known that puppies sold from that particular establishment are buying from puppy farmers.
You say you have your own code of ethics,maybe you do,Should the above be allowed to continue then,it's all well and good having a code of ethics but I gather you are not able to enforce it so again pretty pointless really wouldn't you say ?

Yes I watched PDE with interest, and had various discussions on dog forums about it,this is why we need to regulate breeding in the UK,for the sake of animal welfare,there are various discussions about the DLRC on Various forums,maybe you could register and answer some of our members questions,but then again questions were asked on dogsey but remain unanswered.

As far as I'm concerned the KC already has the monopoly regarding registrations,they are they only club whose registrations are recognised in other countries,as for showing dogs it has it benefits,it's a fab day out for both dogs and owners and a great way for dogs to socialise with other's.
I take it you are not familar with the KC's code of ethics regarding breeding or puppies which do not conform to breed standard.

Giving the KC legislation is in my opinion the right way to be going,they encourage responsible dog ownership,plough money into research for specific breed tests,give donations to rescues etc,what does the DLRC do ?

I'm actually sorry you don't agree with legislation regarding breeding,it is what's needed in the UK and what breed clubs have been calling for for sometime.
As for your petition I'm sorry I will not be signing it,Aninal Welfare should be a prioirty and when a company endorses the sale of pups from pet superstores welfare is obviously not top priority.

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You must be seeing a different thread than me then
Over 9 pages with over 80 replies doesn't indicate a lack of reponse to me

i know what you mean, i brought two KC reg pups, from different people, i thought they were nice, but i have tried ringing and emailing, pics of the dogs etc, and they dont want to know, how sad, allso one of them told me about themselves,and i found out it was lies, so not all kc reg are good breeders,allso i brought a pup NOT kC reg, and the breeder rings me ,and i email her pictures ,and she is lovely, and has become a great friend, if i had a choice i would buy a pup from her in future and steer clear of the two KC reg breeders, who obviously sold pups for money and now dont want to know,

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Both of my dogs are KC Reg,both have fab breeders,
Tyler is coming upto his 3rd birthday and his breeder is still in contact regularly same with Meg,when she developed Pyo her breeder was extremely supportive and rung and emailed us everyday for two weeks.

I get regular emails asking how they are and for updated pics

On the whole though Stafford folk are helpful and friendly.

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How sad counting posts You must have been bored tonight,I didn't realise there was a limit on how many times you could reply to a thread! Would you like to enlighten me Is there ?
If you have a problem with me Janice take it to PM,obviously you have nothing more constructive to add to the thread,what are you trying to achieve as flaming is against forum rules or are you not familar with those ?

All threads run there course so your point is ?
My point was stated at the begining and through the thread,I would have thought that was obvious,do you not read ?

Maybe I should be using the ignore button.