OMG - have just logged on after computer problems and seen this thread.... TBH, if it wasn't for 'that' programme that turned so many pet owners against the KC that they are now more likely to fall for this drivel from the DLRC, it would be laughable.

DLRC is nothing more than a glorified pedigree writing serivce. It was started by a well known puppy farmer/dealer in order to give validity to puppy farm dogs, to fool buyers that they were getting a 'registered' dog and so therefore charge the same prices as a kc registered dog. bIt is nothing like the KC, it does not keep the records that the KC does, nor does it support financially or otherwise, health tests and the research into health problems.

This is a prime example - note the consecutive numbers on the pedigree of the sire and dam of this litter. Consecutive numbers for KC registration occurs in littermates. The number given a KC registered pup is issued it's number for life... all information on health tests, awards etc are recorded against this one entry. DLRC just puts a number next to the dog's name. (They used to show it on the sample pedigree on their website, but now have a blank sample..... I wonder why )

Anyone who registers their puppies with DLRC is supporting puppy farmers because it was started by and for puppy farmers....

Thanks for your post,totally agree especially with with the last highlighted part.
Also to add there is no conformation from the studs owners confirming a mating has taken place,unlike the KC where forms have to be signed by both owners.
There is also nothing on the forms asking for a LA number if the breeder is licensed the KC ask for this.

So apart from printing off fancy pedigrees,having a code of ethics which is unenforceable and conning the unsuspecting people out there,what do they actually do ?

Well, they enable pet breeders and puppy farmers to charge on average, several hundred pounds extra per puppy.....

The really sad thing is that owners don't realise, and breeders say it doesn't matter they're only pets, but very often a new owner can become so enthralled with their new pet, that they decide they want to start showing or competing and then find their registration is n't worth the paper it's written on most of the time, this has not been pointed out to them by the breeder.

I had a call from someone only last week wanting information on training for gundog work, joining clubs and eventually competing. When is was revealed that the puppy was DLRC registered I had to explain that they wouldn't be able to - they need a kc registered dog to do it. None of this had been explained by the breeder.

Absolutely agree - actually, I could write a pedigree now.... let's see.... what about Sire: Scooby Doo Dam: Lassie
That'll do.... now I just need to pay DLRC my money.... and make them a nice profit... paper's not that expensive.

I bet they would send you a nice flashy ped and registration too Complete with dogs history they claim to hold in a database
It is infact very easy to do,fill in the forms and away you go,they even ask you for ped info,the KC don't do this on reg forms,they ask if you would like a KC pedigree,but then of course they do hold a reliable database of all dogs registered with them.
I just filled it in,I made up all sorts,no proof of anything required talk about no frills!

It is sad that people are taken in by them especially if they then want to show or compete in other actitivties.

I had enquired awhile back about the fact they are using pictures of Show Dogs on their site. False Advertising IMO as the true dogs that are advertised are mostly Sub Standard eg overshot, too tall, pinched nostrils. I asked why if they were proud of their site they did not use pics of dogs being advertised, still waiting a reply.
I did manage to get in touch with photographer who gave them copyright to pics and informed him of this place and he will not be giving them any further pics

Hi again. Thread still running then? Morning Sallyanne.
Although this has DLRC in the title it is not really about them is it? It is about the reported attempt to seize control of the dog "world" by the KC. The DLRC just happens to be the ones that have started the petition. In a "for or against" situation it is inevitable that you will find yourself allied with those that you may disagree with on other things.

Morning
Very true but that happens in all walks of life,the world would be a very boring place if we all agreed and disagreed on everything.
Surely if the legislation the KC are asking for was a bad thing,other organisations would have become invovled.
I don't see or haven't found any objections from rescue and welfare organisations.
The only reason I can see the DLRC objecting to the proposed legislation is because they WILL be put out of business.
Many people I have spoken too think that it is the right way forward for the sake of animal welfare which should be top priority not some puppy farmers club going out of business.

I've seen the petition on the DLRC site, but can someone point me in the right direction of any other proposals either governmental or KC please.

I know this is off Topic,but I thought I'd post it for Janice because she doesn't believe the KC take action against individuals as you can clearly see they do.
Kennel Club Fact File Rule A42 Disciplinary Case Gordon - The Kennel Club

Kennel Club Fact File Rule A42 Disciplinary Case Gordon
03-Nov-08

Kennel Club Fact File

Rule A42 Disciplinary Case

Disciplinary Sub Committee Hearing

30 October 2008

The Kennel Club -v- Mr G A Gordon

Kennel Club Rule A 42

The Committee, having carefully considered the evidence, find that the complaint brought by the Kennel Club under Kennel Club Rule A42 a (1) (b) against Mr G A Gordon, in that he repeatedly engaged in threatening and abusive behaviour at the Northumberland and Durham Labrador Retriever Club Working Test at Hope Farm held on 20 April 2008, resulting in the issue of a police caution by Northumbria Police, is upheld.

The Committee noted that Mr Gordon admitted and apologised for the incident and recognised it as being inappropriate. The behaviour complained of, namely threatening, abusive conduct and putting people in fear is totally unacceptable and cannot be tolerated at Kennel Club licensed events. Everyone should behave in an appropriate manner so that all may feel secure. This incident is not commonplace and the Committee felt there were mitigating circumstances. The Committee therefore wished to issue a reminder to participants that private issues have no place in the context of licensed events.

The Committee impose the following penalties:

1
To warn him to his future conduct
[A42 j(1)]

2
To censure him
[A42 j(2)]

3
To disqualify him from exhibiting at, taking part in, attending

and/or having any connection with any event licensed by the Club. If any person disqualified under this sub-paragraph shall attend any canine event whilst disqualified the General

Committee shall have the power to increase the period of disqualification
[A42 j(4)]

The suspensions and disqualifications are to be for a period of eighteen months (18 months) from 30 October 2008.
The Committee, following the impositions of these penalties, would draw the attention of the Respondent/s to the effect of Rule A42 sub-sections n.

Dundee I haven't found any proposed legislation but it's on the KC site that they have asked for it,it's probably a long way off.
According to DLRC an early day motion has been passed.

My take on this is there should not be a monopoly. I personally have a huge issue with KC as I thought I was doing the right thing getting a pedigree dog but I was shocked at the breeder who I was going to get a pup from. I eventually got a rescue retriever which took time.

KC makes sure that both parents are pedigrees and that is it really. There needs to be a law and licence policy brought in for puppys. Having seen first hand that pedigree does not mean best practice I personally think it should be a radical rethink.

Looking for a new dog I am shocked to see how many puppies are now being offered free to good homes. Must be the credit crunch kicking in.

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