Sorry, cant remember what the injections name is or is it a pill they get??

Me and my friend were just at the shop and on coming out to untie the dog his got tangled up, and as he went to untangle her she yanked the lead out of his hand an ran away after the stray dog who has been hangin about.

After 15 mins runnin after them, and stoppin twice to ask people if theyd seen her.. I was looking in the big grass field and luckily heard a yelp.

By this point they were tied and she was getting quite frantic (probably cos my friend was stressin out) but I managed to keep her calm until they parted, meantime removing my belt to use as a lead to catch the collie!

She is in heat and somewhere between the 12-16 days so im rekoning shes prob pregnant now..

We dont have a 24 hr vet close so its gonna have to be 1st thing in the morning. He definately doesnt want her to have pups shes only one and theyv a baby due in 3 weeks,

Just wondered if this happened to anyone and how much vets might usaually charge for pill/jags?

I called the police to collect the dog so the owners will get a nice £80 fine after wonderin why hes not come home (he didnt have a tag)

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I have no idea how much it costs, and there are various brands on the market. It is an injection generically known as the 'mistmate jab'. Your vet will know what is best to give the bitch.

The bitch was probably frightened, hence the getting frantic. Dogs can be raped just like humans can.

It is very responsible of your friend not to allow her ot have pups, she is far too young. Maybe you coudl suggest to him that in future he either doesn't take his bitch out when she is in season, or perhaps has her spayed? The mismate jab can increase the future risk of pyometra, so spaying is probably best anyway.

Yeah, thanks. i wasnt sure if she was running away from him or with him.
he has so far been very careful with her.. as he owns a male staff too and neither have been done. But she is VERY energetic and his neighbour goes mental when the dogs jumpin up the walls! lol, even when she has been a walk on the lead she isnt tired.

I think he was thinking of breeding them in a couple of years (both are pedigree and kc reg with brill temperament, and he knows lots of responsible people who want pups off them) but I have been trying to talk him out of it. Theres too many unwanted dogs why cant they just get one of them instead?!
Well I think after this scare he will be more likely to get her spayed!

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..............Dave...........................Dixie................

My Dogs are not my whole life, but they make my life whole.

For Sammy. Gone but not forgotten x x

Maybe if you explain to him about the pyo that will make up his mind? Also, the KC have urged people not to breed anymore staffies as there are SO many in rescue, so really only the most experienced and responsible within the breed should be contemplating it.

I don't mean to be rude, but am I right in understanding he left his in season bitch tied up outside a shop unnattended while you both went in? If so, not at all advisable.

You're a good friend asking advice on his behalf.

Noo, I was waiting outside with them as the collie has been hanging around all week! We just tied her up while I used the cashpoint (less than 2 metres away) cos she gets hysterical when he leaves her and it upsets my dog and they fight.
Ive been walkin with him since she came into heat so she cant get left on her own. We'v both been soo careful so far and shes almost at the end of her heat it is soo annoying!

I know of this collie and to my knowledge he has sired 3 litters this year. He can climb his 6ft fence and any bitch in heat he will be sure to appear at some point. I just wish his owners weren't so irresponsible!!!
My freind wanted to go and demant money for the vet but a) i only know what part of town, not house and b)u cant rele bang on sum1s door n demand money b4 ul give dog back.
i have told police what happened so maybe they will suggest it to them when they go pay to release him?! well it would stop it happenin again.

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..............Dave...........................Dixie................

My Dogs are not my whole life, but they make my life whole.

For Sammy. Gone but not forgotten x x

Oh, Apologies, I misunderstood.

maybe he'll have her spayed. If not, maybe you can suggest some 'dog pants' for her when she is walke during her season. i am not sure they'd make her totally safe, but they'd offer some protection at least. You can get them in Pets At Home. Good luck!

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but please explain to your friend that they were irresponsible in the extreme in taking out an in season bitch and as for leaving her tied up outside a shop....mad:
Not only is he risking her getting pregnant... which it would appear is likely , but the effect on male dogs is totally unfair, and can ruin the behaviour of an entire dog around a bitch... can cause a dog to follow a bitch for miles, putting the dog in danger from traffic etc... and far from this being an irresponsible dog owner that you are pleased to see get an £80 fine, it is also highly likely that it was your friends bitch may have caused this dog to have run away from it's frantic owners who are wondering why it's normally well behaved dog has taken off....

I'm sorry, but it IS the bitch owners that are being irresponsible by taking in season bitches out.

I'm sorry, but I can hardly believe what I am reading..... someone who takes their in season bitch out attracting a dog to climb a 6 foot fence (which by any standards is considered secure), then expects the owner of the dog to pay for it's bitch's pregnancy to be terminated... I'm lost for words...

Jackson... I'm sorry, but this is a prime example of why I now encourage neutering of pet....

Poisongirl... if this bitch gets hysterical when her owner leaves and gets stressed, then she does NOT have an brill temperment and should NOT be bred from... Hopefully you can persuade your friend of the error or breeding from a bitch with such a temperament.

To be fair, in some cases it is in the bitches best interests to be walked whilst in season. I know plenty of very experienced breeders who walk their in season bitches, but in a responsible manner and away from other dogs.

If someone wishes to own an entire dog, it is their responsibility to ensure that their dog i skept under control at all times and in a securely fenced garden. That means if it can jump a 6ft fence, you get a higher fence or find a way to keep the dog in. Who's to say the neighbour two doors away isn't going to have an in season bitch they decide to let out in their own garden that tempts the dog to jump the fence?

It does appear the dog owner acted incredibly irresponsibly in this case (I am trying to be nicer, after it was pointed out to me I am not always... ) and I did suggest in this case the bitch is probably better off spayed. However, I woudl still always chose responsible ownership over cutting bits off.

She was not left tied up outside a shop I was right next to her, she has not been left alone one moment while she has been in heat.
Just pure coincidence she jerked the lead while he wasnt holding it tightlly trying to untangle her and stop her hurtin her leg.

The reason she stresses when he leaves her outside a shop (and it is only this shop) is because once she was tied up outside it and some neds beat her up. apart from this she has an amazing temperament.

the collie is not normaly well behaved. every bitch in heat within a 5mile radius of him, he's there. even if they are in there own dog run (my neighbour across the field has 2 labs and wen they r in heat the collie shits on her washing and wrecks her garden). he is ALWAYS gettin out, followoin after bitches in heat, crossin busy roads and they have been told to make fence secure several times by community wardens. also his owners dont walk him.

it is impossible not to excercise her while in heat as they share a garden and it is unsuitable to let a dog in (they are awaiting a new house) his missus is 3 weeks to go until baby born and the dog drives her mad if she doesnt get a walk, the neightbour hates dogs and complaines when the dog moans needin to go out.

as i said, i have been encouraging him not to breed from her. and we have been EXTREMELY careful with her since she came into heat. being irresponsible would probably include leaving her in teh same room alone with the male entire staff? no. they have been kept seperate and when they cant be watched they are crated.

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..............Dave...........................Dixie................

My Dogs are not my whole life, but they make my life whole.

For Sammy. Gone but not forgotten x x