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Old 08-08-2011, 07:01 PM
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Re: Experimenting With Raw

Yes, green tripe is 'unwashed' or 'unbleached' tripe - 'green' because it's quite literally still green from the grass in the cows stomach!

Washing and bleaching makes it fit for human consumption, but removes all the nutrients for the dogs, so it's always best to feed green if you can get your hands on it.
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Re: Experimenting With Raw

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Yes, green tripe is 'unwashed' or 'unbleached' tripe - 'green' because it's quite literally still green from the grass in the cows stomach!

Washing and bleaching makes it fit for human consumption, but removes all the nutrients for the dogs, so it's always best to feed green if you can get your hands on it.
Is the frozen tripe from pets @ home any good?
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:14 PM
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Re: Experimenting With Raw

You mean the Prize Choice minced one? I've only ever used it a couple of times when I've been unable to get any fresh tripe and it's ok - very mushy and watery so feed partially defrosted or frozen if you are going to use it. Not something I'd use all the time but should be ok if you can't get any other tripe
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Is the frozen tripe from pets @ home any good?
I feed that and the other minces as a topper for the kibble, but I wouldn't feed them that on it's own.
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Re: Experimenting With Raw

Chicken wings are safe so long as your dog is crunching them. if your are worried that he is going to eat them without chewing them hold on to one end. Spud gets two or three chicken wings a day and a couple of chicken necks.

if you were feeding a complete raw diet you would work on a simple weight ratio for his food, so at 40kgs he should be getting between 1-1.2kg’s of food a day of which 10%(100-120g) should be bone and 10% organs. You don’t have to feed exactly this ratio every day but can average it out over a week.

Vegetables aren’t strictly necessary but they do add a bit of variety and interest to the diet. I do however find that with Spud, If I am not giving him bones one day, meat on its own is to rich for him, particularly if I am giving him more organ meat so mixing in a few mashed vegetables seems to help him with better digestion.

Spud is the first dog I have feed a raw diet to and he has been on it for over a year and a half now. So everything I have said above is based on my experience with him and the reading I have done.
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You mean the Prize Choice minced one? I've only ever used it a couple of times when I've been unable to get any fresh tripe and it's ok - very mushy and watery so feed partially defrosted or frozen if you are going to use it. Not something I'd use all the time but should be ok if you can't get any other tripe
If you get the tripe chunks rather then the ground up stuff its less watery.

I keep a couple of bags of the tripe and a few bags of the chicken as a emergancy food incase I can't get fresh stuff
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If you have or can get a small freezer you're better off buying form a place like this.
Raw Dogfood provides many nutritional and health benefits over traditional wet feed. Our business specialises in BARF

Prize Choice meats are not very good IMO, they reduce in size when defrosted and they are dry-ish (no blood if you know what I mean) and they have a strange smell, not a meaty smell at all.
Here is a rough idea of what I would feed to Kali, she is 43kgs. Remember this is a rough guide only.

MON.
1) AM. 1/2lb chick mince, 1/4 liver - raw veg (carrot, mange tout, sweetcorn, swede etc.)
PM. 2 pigs tails (or chicken necks)- bowl goats milk with 1 raw egg yolk.
TUES.
2) AM. meaty lamb bone around 1lb in weight.
PM. 1/2lb lamb+tripe mince - 1/4lb heart&kidney - raw veg.
WEDS.
3) AM. 1/2lb tripe mince - 1/4lb liver - mixed raw veg.
PM. 4 chicken wings - 1 whole raw carrot - small bowl goats milk, no egg.
THURS.
4) AM. 1/2lb beef chunks - 1/4lb heart&kidney - tin sardines in tom sauce (mine like tom sauce ones)
PM. 2 pigs tails (or chicken necks) - mange tout - carrot - sweetcorn nibblets.
FRI.
5) AM. 3/4lb rabbit mince - tin sardines - mixed raw veg.
PM. 2 chicken carcasses - small bowl goats milk+ 1 egg yolk.
SAT.
6) AM. 1/2lb venison mince - 1/4lb heart - mixed raw veg.
PM. 4 chicken wings - 1 whole raw carrot.
SUN.
7) AM. "Sunday special lunch"
1/4lb chicken mince - 1/4lb kidney - 1/4lb heart - portion of lamb breast (around 8 ozs) 1 chicken wing - mixed veg.
PM. 2 chicken wings - 1 carrot small bowl goats milk, no egg.

This is a rough guide and you have to remember your dog is still young so will need extra for growing purposes. Tripe is a good food for keeping them trim although some think it's good for adding weight it contains hardly any fat but dogs love it generally and that's why you can add weight with it because even fussy dogs will often eat tripe and in turn gain weight, where as they may refuse other foods. I give veg purely because my dogs like it, it bulks up the meal and gives them a different texture. It isn't given for nutritional value as it would need to be pulped however I don't buy the not digesting it as I don't see as much in their poop as I give them to eat, so I think they digest a little.
Malamutes are known to need less food than other breeds to so you will need to calculate with the 2% of an Akita's ideal body weight to see how much your dog will need, remembering he is a pup and will need more. I give lots of yukky stuff but this diet will be fine for any dog so you don't have to give heads, brains, trotters etc. if you don't' want to. I don't give too much lamb but I do give pork as it actually is not too fatty, believe it or not chicken, even carcasses are quite fatty and higher in cholesterol than pork but very good food none the less.

Hope this goes some way to giving you and idea - but still.......... BUY THAT BOOK! lol.
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Re: Experimenting With Raw

Just to chirp in about the chicken wings - my two males and one of the bitches swallow them whole, no chewing at all and never had a problem!!
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I'll second that Ceearot - my dogs small and large have never had a problem with wings and i've never had to crush them either.
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