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Old 29-07-2011, 12:43 PM
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Re: KC Query

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You need to get the breeder, if thats whos still down as the registered owner to
sign the form for new owner registration. Once they have done that, you can then fill in your part and and send it off with the fee. It was 5 years ago I did it now, and I believe you may even be able to do it on line, but thats the way I did mine. But you need to have the signed paperwork if you do it the way I did, which the breeder should have given you with the pup.
I wasn't given anything like that :-/ Oh dear
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Old 29-07-2011, 01:01 PM
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He comes from a line of 28 crufts champtions though.
really?

There's no such thing as a "Crufts Champion" - obviously a dog can win the Challenge Certificate (CC aka Ticket) at Crufts and already be, or go on to be, a Champion

Bearing in mind Crufts is only held once a year -to have 28 dogs in a pedigree that have gone BOB at Crufts in a 5 generation pedigree would be going some - or have some very tight linebreeding (I am not going to claim to be an expert on Beagles pedigrees, but I wouldn't have thought the gene pool was overly small).

A dog has to win three CC's under three separate judges to become a Show Champion (or Champion dependent on it's stud book band).

The closest thing I suppose you could refer to as a "Crufts Champion" is the dog taking BIS at Crufts - but they do not have to be, and may never become, a Champion (unlikely as winning Crufts really is the pinnacle of a show dogs career - but still technically possible) - but don't forget - only one dog out of thousands from across the world can win it each year.

My first show girl's both grandfathers took BOB at Crufts, (one twice - the other had the reserve ticket as a puppy the year before) - one of them also going on to win the GD group - so getting into the final 7 (no mean feat).

Her pedigree looks fabulous on paper, her mother finished her show career one ticket off a full champion, and 7 reserve tickets, her dad has one ticket and a number of reserve tickets - she's a fab girl, and she's been a good showdog for me, but for a number of reasons, she will never be bred from - so whilst what is in the pedigree is, to a certain extent, relevant, it's not enough on it's own - and bitches, by the very nature of how many litters they can have in a lifetime, can have far less impact on a breed than a male.
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Grrr, they refunded my money as I'm not registered as the owner of Wesley. WTF? How do I fix this? So irritating I thought it was all done, how can I have the insurance if I'm not the registered owner?
You would need the breeder to sign the transfer of ownership form and give it to you. You can either then post it in with the fee or do it online. You should have been given this form when you got the pup.

Not being the registered owner does not mean that you can't insure him. It doesn't even prove legal ownership. It will only prevent you from showing him and registering progeny with the KC, neither of which you are interested in doing.

If he was advertised as KC reg then you may have acase with Trading Standards.
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Old 29-07-2011, 01:50 PM
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I wasn't given anything like that :-/ Oh dear
You need to get on to the breeder then and ask for the KC registration form for transfer of ownership to be signed by her and sent to you. Even if you picked pup up before she got them back from the KC to pass onto the new owners they should have been forwarded to you when she//he got them.

Chase her up and see what they say.
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Grrr, they refunded my money as I'm not registered as the owner of Wesley. WTF? How do I fix this? So irritating I thought it was all done, how can I have the insurance if I'm not the registered owner?
That because you havent done the transfer of ownership form either online or by post
You need to contact your breeder

and anyone can insure any dog, the insurance for my mums dog is in my name

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You need to get on to the breeder then and ask for the KC registration form for transfer of ownership to be signed by her and sent to you. Even if you picked pup up before she got them back from the KC to pass onto the new owners they should have been forwarded to you when she//he got them.

Chase her up and see what they say.
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