Hi 118,

If you suspect theres a puppy farm near you or know someone who does. I suggest making a visit there (not alone) posing as a buyer and see what you find. If they have more than 4-5 bitches there, they really need a licence and its the local counil that would licence them, so you would contact them to see if they do actually have a licence, if they dont theyre breaking the law.

If they do have a licence but the conditions are poor, then you complain to the local council and the RSPCA.

If you want any advive, pm me.

You may also like to take a look at:

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It's incredible that so called "civilised" human beings will cause any suffering to any animal just to make money. It's very difficult not to put a few expletives in here. It's quite ironic that I've often heard the phrase "such and such a person was treated like an animal". Well maybe if animals were treated better then that wouldn't be such a bad thing,
Anthony

Can i just say thank you very much for this post.

It was very interesting and has opened my eyes.

Those poor wee puppies breaks my heart.

I am getting a westie puppy next week, but now reading this is really making me wonder.

I saw the advert in the paper, I phoned the man and he seemed really nice. I asked questions and so did he.

He said he can deliver the puppy as me or my partner dont drive and it seemed a good solution as he stays over 100 miles away from us. He was fine though in the first place about us picking the puppy up, so now after reading all this do you think I should def try and get someone to take me there?

Thanks xx

You should never buy a puppy without visiting it, and seeing it with its mum and siblings.

People often buy pups in from puppy farms, and pass them off as ones they have bred themselves. With a dog like the westie that can have a fair few health problems, i would be very careful.

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Thank you

My friend is going to take me up there next week so will find out. I feel so nieve now about it all, rather stupid actually.

Its all new to me you see, the only dog I ever got before was from a rescue centre, we had him for a long time then he got very old and passed away, he was already an adult dog when we got him, before we had children.

Thank you again xxx

Hi Donna,

Oh my! Thank god youve changed your mind. You should always see the mum with the litter and the surroundings theyve been brought up in.

As Nonnie said, puppy farmers often sell litters to a dealer and they sell them on as their own by delivering them, so be very careful. A lot of the puppy farm pups not only have long term serious health problems but normally havent had their first injections or been wormed. I've heard stories of them being covered in fleas and being ill abd a lot die from more serious illnesses.

Is this man in wales by any chance? If you do go there and find that they are in unsuitable conditions, dont feel sorry for them and buy one to 'save it' as buying them just means the poor mum has to have yet another litter and the breeer will carry on for years to come.

If you go there and find anything that doesnt look right, pm me if you like and I will advise you.

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Thank you Danielle,

After researching a lot on the net and with thanks to you lovely owners on here I have learned just so much about it all.

I feel pretty daft if this guy is a con man and all I want is a lovely little dog for me and my kids to love and make part of our family.

My partner is actually pretty impressed at how much I am learning, but it seems I need to with all the things going on, I just can't believe what people will do! Don't they realise they are messing about with little lives, poor wee things.

My friend is taking us on tuesday to this guys house, he is phoning me tonight so if he is a bit shifty about not wanting us to come or something doesn't sound right, I am going to call it off. I just want to find the perfect pet.

When I talked to him at first, he was totally fine about me coming to him to get the pup, it was me that said in the paper it said about that he could deliver depends on where.

But def going there to see. If I see the parents (he said the parents were his pets) and if all looks well I will be happy, if I have any suspicions will def not take the pup even if I feel sorry for the wee thing.

Thank you again everyone you are all fantastic!

Right new dilema lol

I talked to the man who we are getting the puppy from and told him we would pick the puppy up, he was more than happy for me to do that. He said I would be welcome to come up and see the parents, as they are both his pet dogs.

He said he would meet us half way if we wanted as it is a 3 hour drive and we would have to leave at 5pm, but I said no we will just come to his house. Which he had no problem with.

The only thing that alerted me is that he lives on a farm. I mean I know people who are farmers dogs will have puppies, but reading all this about puppy farms are starting to freak me out.

What do you guys think? Dodgey or do you think he will be fine?

Hi Donna,

Just explain you want to go to his house to see the dogs.

Living on a farm could be a coincidence but a lot of 'breeders' do live on farms. I am more concerned that he has both parents, puppy farmers will always have both parents and backyard breeders usually have both parent too. Whereas show breeders will usually have the bitch but hunt high and low to find a good/champion stud.

If this is the only two adult dogs he has then I'd say fine but if he has a number of other dogs of all different breeds then I'd definately say no. Are the pups KC registered and what breed is it anyway?

and where does this bloke live?

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Hi there,

Thanks for the advice I decided not to go for it and we got a little jack russell pup from someone we trusted, well someone they know very well and it has worked out fine, saw the parents (they were both the pets) house was very clean and dog friendly if that sounds possible lol you could just see they loved and took care of their dogs and house very well. All in all we made the right decision.

Ok we never got the westie that we wanted, but our little JR pup is fantastic and glad we made the choice to see her.

The first night was ok, she didn't cry, just slept a lot, last night was fine, but cheeky girl played a lot lol, but she didn't chew anything or destroy anything just played with her toys.

Doing good so far with toilet training, she has been going on the paper all the time at first of course a couple of accidents, but now she is doing really well.

So pleased with her xxx