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Old 05-10-2008, 09:34 AM
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Breeds/KC/suffering

I am new to this forum and am interested in people's opinions on this topic.

We have always had pedigree dogs, Labradors, OESDs and Collies; we now have a crossbreed and find her temperament is better, her health is too and then I watched the programme about the KC and dog breeds - the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels suffering such agony; the Boxers having fits and decided that humans have forgotton that we have lost sight of the fact all dogs are mongrels and "breeds" are man-made and controlled by the breeders and KC who are causing these poor innocent creatures such abhorant suffering... why? People are slagging off crossbreeds/designer dogs and the cost of which IMO is cheaper than many pedigree costs.
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I am new to this forum and am interested in people's opinions on this topic.

We have always had pedigree dogs, Labradors, OESDs and Collies; we now have a crossbreed and find her temperament is better, her health is too and then I watched the programme about the KC and dog breeds - the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels suffering such agony; the Boxers having fits and decided that humans have forgotton that we have lost sight of the fact all dogs are mongrels and "breeds" are man-made and controlled by the breeders and KC who are causing these poor innocent creatures such abhorant suffering... why? People are slagging off crossbreeds/designer dogs and the cost of which IMO is cheaper than many pedigree costs.
Welcome to the forum. The subjects you mention have been thoroughly debated on here recently. If you browse past posts I am sure you will see many views to interest you.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:49 AM
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I am new to this forum and am interested in people's opinions on this topic.

We have always had pedigree dogs, Labradors, OESDs and Collies; we now have a crossbreed and find her temperament is better, her health is too and then I watched the programme about the KC and dog breeds - the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels suffering such agony; the Boxers having fits and decided that humans have forgotton that we have lost sight of the fact all dogs are mongrels and "breeds" are man-made and controlled by the breeders and KC who are causing these poor innocent creatures such abhorant suffering... why? People are slagging off crossbreeds/designer dogs and the cost of which IMO is cheaper than many pedigree costs.
Very good point - it's the fact that they are being sold for exhorbant prices I think that angers many.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:56 AM
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I am new to this forum and am interested in people's opinions on this topic.

We have always had pedigree dogs, Labradors, OESDs and Collies; we now have a crossbreed and find her temperament is better, her health is too and then I watched the programme about the KC and dog breeds - the Cavalier King Charles Spaniels suffering such agony; the Boxers having fits and decided that humans have forgotton that we have lost sight of the fact all dogs are mongrels and "breeds" are man-made and controlled by the breeders and KC who are causing these poor innocent creatures such abhorant suffering... why? People are slagging off crossbreeds/designer dogs and the cost of which IMO is cheaper than many pedigree costs.
Welcome to the forum. If you follow this link Pedigree Dogs Exposed BBC2 next Tuesday you will read a huge discussion this forum had about this. If you go onto the news section and read the links about all the support the Kennel Club and breeders of pedigree dogs has been given for all the good work they do, you will get a better picture of the pedigree scene - ie a truthful picture rather than the lies, mispresented facts and acts of cruelty by a production team and camera crew that was all this program consisted of.
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I think that most bad breeding is by a few breeders of the more populars breeds, as they can money out of their dogs but don't care very much for them. And as for the breed clubs it's time they got their act together and start changing the breed standard back to a more health dog, eg:- one that can breath and eat and drink with no problem.
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Very good point - it's the fact that they are being sold for exhorbant prices I think that angers many.
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I agree Sue, that is one point that seems to come up time and time again. I think the other main points people make stem from this. Firstly, these exhorbitant prices attract the wrong sort of breeder - ie the ones who are just wanting to make money and breed indiscriminately, not giving a d--- about the dogs and their health. Secondly, this sort of uncaring breeding will, ten years or so down the line, result in health problems far worse than any seen in the pedigree world. And thirdly, whilst a lot of people who buy designer dogs genuinely care about their animals, there is also a certain sort of buyer who buys designer dogs because they are in fashion, and will abandon them just as soon as the fashion changes - more poor animals for the rescue centres to cope with.

From things people have said on various forums there are one or two genuine breeders of "designer dogs" who do check health and offer an after sales service, but these are few and far between. My own opinion is that, even if all the bad press the Kennel Club has received lately were true (which it isn't) then if this can happen to breeders who are regulated, how can anyone even begin to believe that no regulations at all will produce healthy puppies?

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You know I am getting tired of people knocking my breed, people that have no idea what work the breed clubs are putting into health issues, no idea what schemes are in place, and all because of "lies, mispresented facts and acts of cruelty by a production team and camera crew that was all this program consisted of. " (stolen from spellweaver)
Just wish people would gather the facts before jumping on the band wagon
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You know I am getting tired of people knocking my breed, people that have no idea what work the breed clubs are putting into health issues, no idea what schemes are in place, and all because of "lies, mispresented facts and acts of cruelty by a production team and camera crew that was all this program consisted of. " (stolen from spellweaver)
Just wish people would gather the facts before jumping on the band wagon
Totally agree Rach - that was why I directed the poster to the articles in the news section.
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Not just directed to the OP, I can't even walk my dogs without comments, whispers, snide remarks. We go to a show and spend hours defending our breed, its ridiculous
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:30 AM
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Not just directed to the OP, I can't even walk my dogs without comments, whispers, snide remarks. We go to a show and spend hours defending our breed, its ridiculous
Know what you mean cos we're getting fall-out too - when they see the bergies, far more people are now saying things like "You shouldn't be allowed to do things like that to your dogs" rather than "wow, is that natural".
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