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Old 02-10-2008, 09:13 AM
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American Pit Bull Terriers

I was wondernig if I could get some advice on buying a staffie puppy. I have been looking on the internet at classified ads and there are alot of ads saying "red nose" dogs under the staffie section - is this a code name for American Pit Bull Terrier? How can I be sure they are staffies not Pit Bulls? Also if an advert says, Old tyme stafford, Irish stafford and long legged staffie should I be suspicious?
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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Surely if they are KC registered and have their pedigree papers saying they are SBTs that is proof enough they arn't PBTs?
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:23 AM
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I was wondernig if I could get some advice on buying a staffie puppy. I have been looking on the internet at classified ads and there are alot of ads saying "red nose" dogs under the staffie section - is this a code name for American Pit Bull Terrier? How can I be sure they are staffies not Pit Bulls? Also if an advert says, Old tyme stafford, Irish stafford and long legged staffie should I be suspicious?

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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Sorry you can also tell by there ears and the nose
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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Where abouts are you?

I can send you a list of Staffordshire bull terrier clubs which can help you find one.

Please make sure both parents are KC Reg and health tested for L2HGA and HC and eye screened for PHPV/PPSC.

These tests must be done.

Just because the dog may be a pet doesnt make it immune to these dreadful diseases,the only way to know for sure is to buy from tested parents.

I will get that list for you.

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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Hi there,
The worst place you can buy a SBT is from freeads papers ans internet sites,there are some good breeders on there but they in the main are BYB.

I would suggest you contact one of the breed clubs and they will point you in the right direction,to find a well bred health tested puppy.
All Staffords should be tested for L2HGA,HC,PHPV and PPSC.

A SBT pup should be sold with KC Registraton documents,pedigree,etc.

Breed Clubs,
Alyn & Deeside SBTC. Sec.Mr A Moran. Tel No:0161 320 6485

Downlands SBTC. Sec. Mrs A Gatenby. Tel No:01730 828402

East Anglian SBTC Sec. Mrs L Mcfadyen. Tel No: 01992 427698

East Midlands SBTC. Sec. Mrs N Vann. Tel No: 01664 840570

Merseyside SBTC. Sec. Mrs C Kerrington. Tel No: 0151 546 7516

Morccambe Bay & Cumbria SBTC. Sec. Mr G H Earle. Tel No: 01697 320217

North Eastern SBTC. Sec. Miss J M E McLauchlan Tel No: 01642 783948

North Of Scotland SBTC. Sec. Ms J A Smith Tel No not available please contact The Kennel Club.

North West SBTC. Sec. Miss S Houghton. Tel No: 01942 708161

Northern Counties SBTC. Sec. Mrs L King. Tel No: 0113 2632 462

Notts & Derby District SBTC. Sec. Mrs Jenny Smith. Tel No: 01332 781062

Potteries SBTC. Sec. Mrs S A reader. Tel No: 01782 611514

Scottish SBTC Sec. Mr Fleming. Tel No: 0141 763 2349

Southern Counties SBTC. Sec. Mr Meneer. Tel No not available,please contact The Kennel Club.

SBTC. Sec. Mr J Beaufoy. Tel No: 01299 403382

SBTC Of South Wales. Sec. Mr K Jones. Tel No: 01639 821410

Western SBT Society. Sec. Mr Grimwood. Tel No: 01495 759254

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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Staffordshire Bull Terriers U.K. Breed Council of G.B.and N.Ireland

This is a link about the conditions.

Remember the only way to be sure your new family member wont suffer from any of the above diseases is to buy from tested parents.

Why risk it?

Would you be able to cope with the heartache of seeing your 7 month old pup start to show signs of L2HGA.

The tests are available to help prevent breeding affected.


Just because the parents are fine doesnt mean they arent carriers,and two carriers can produce AFFECTED

Signs dont start until approx 6 months plus,some later.

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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Hi,

Sorry to come in on the thread like this.

But, with regards to SBT health tests... is it just the parents that are tested (and if they are clear so are the pups), or should both parents and each pup be tested too?
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Hi,

Sorry to come in on the thread like this.

But, with regards to SBT health tests... is it just the parents that are tested (and if they are clear so are the pups), or should both parents and each pup be tested too?
Both Parents should be tested BEFORE breeding,if they are both clear then pups are hereditary clear and don't need testing for L2/HC,
If one is a carrier then ALL Pups in the litter should be tested before going to new homes.
With Regards to PHPV & PPSC both parents should be tested BEFORE Breeding and should be unaffected.Some Breeders will test their pups before they go to new homes.
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:52 AM
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Re: American Pit Bull Terriers

Yes - of course pedigree papers would tell me it was a pure staffie & nothing else....I thought that was too obvious to mention lol!

I meant more physically, what are the physical characteristics and would the untrained eye be able to tell the difference. You hear stories of ignorant people approaching staffie owners & telling them there dog looks like a pitbull & that it should be destroyed. If you look on the website UK classified ads there are hundereds of American Pit Bull Terriers for sale even though they are illegal - the owners obviously dont care but it just it just goes to show that there are ALOT of APTB out there still.
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