Originally Posted by harmeetjohal

have heard about allot of pit bulls been reg as staf crosses...
and have been shown a few websites showing ppl breeding them and fighting them in the uk...
they are lovely dogs but often owned by idiots....

ppl are bring them in to the country and have heard of ppl crossing them with mastiff to creating bandogs

Originally Posted by sallyanne

Yes they are banned but it doesn't stop idiots getting hold of them and breeding from them even though it is illegal under british law.
The special license you a talking about is certification of exemption which can only be granted through the courts.The Index of Exempted Dogs closed in 1991-it is not possible for a dog’s owner to take their own steps and register their dog, in order to bring it within the law.

The only way a dog can go on the Register is by Court order.

There is no provision for an owner to make an application to a Court themselves.
Registered Dogs:
Dogs registered either back in 1991, or since 1997 via court order have to comply with the following requirements (within a designated time) in order to obtain a certification of exemption:

* Neutering * Micro chipping * tattoo inside rear leg * insurance cover.

Compulsory muzzling and leash in public places:

Registered dogs have to be muzzled and held on a lead by someone over the age of 16yrs at all times when in a public place (which includes inside your vehicle when it is itself in a public place e.g., on the road).

A registered dog’s muzzle cannot be removed at any time when in a public place, if it is - a criminal offence will have been committed.

Owners cannot remove the muzzle to allow their dog to drink or eat if in a public place.

Even if a registered dog is being sick and chocking – there is no defence for removing its muzzle.

For this reason, owners of registered dogs have to take special care to safeguard their dogs welfare; especially where dogs may be ill, have a medical condition e.g., epilepsy, or in the case of older dogs and during hot weather.

Originally Posted by harmeetjohal

have heard about allot of pit bulls been reg as staf crosses...
and have been shown a few websites showing ppl breeding them and fighting them in the uk...
they are lovely dogs but often owned by idiots....

ppl are bring them in to the country and have heard of ppl crossing them with mastiff to creating bandogs

Originally Posted by bee112

All because of idiots desperatley trying to "look hard" having these dogs and giving them no training or proper socialisation.

Originally Posted by Kay2008

Most of the people that own these kind of dogs is just because of the image they get. Thinking they look hard, and nobody will "f*ck with them" because they have a hard/vicious dog. .

Originally Posted by alison

Absolutely incorrect!

Most of the people who own dogs deemed "pit bull type" have no idea their dog is anything but a stafford or cross breed. Most are owned by good responsible owners who have loving friendly pet dogs. I deal day in day out with those owners and their dogs so I know this is true.

As with any breed or type you have bad owners who create problem dogs but as with breed or type those like that are the minority not the majority.

Originally Posted by Kay2008

I am talking about pitballs here... So I still say that most of the people that own pitballs in this country (even though they are banned) are for the reasons I said above. People know they are banned, so genuine people wouldn't own one if they know it's against the law.

Oh and thanks for stating I am "Absolutely incorrect" that's your opinion, and of course your answer is "Absolutely correct" . I may be incorrect in some peoples views, but I still feel that people who buy/own pitbulls even though they are banned are doing it for image reasons.

Yes, of course there are lots of very good owners owning these "bad named" breeds, but I wasn't referring to them.

For example, people think SBT's and Rottweilers are vicious, they are not... it's the owners that have made them like that or let them get out of control. I do feel that certain breeds need more firm training compared to others otherwise they can get out of control which of course isn't the dogs fault, it's the owners.

Most of the people I have met with Bull type breeds for example do it because they feel they look hard. That is just my opinion.

I know there are good owners with these breeds of dogs, as I have come to know a few on this forum!

Originally Posted by sallyanne

Alison I agree with you,you only have to look at what went on with the amnesty in merseyside.Did they actually sieze any dogs that come from the merky world of underground dog fighting rings ? My guess is if they did it wasn't very many, if any at all. Some owners hadn't got a clue that they were in posession of a dog that could be or was Type (I hate that bloody word)These were innocent family pets.
I was glued to the news and computer when these owners went to court,a day I won't forget or the many owners of these dogs when the verdict was reached.A step in the right direction against BSL - but still a very long way to go.
Some people go and buy a lovely cute little crossbreed puppy,you have no idea how this puppy will mature and turn out,it could very well end up been type,How on earth were the new owners supposed to know this,two legal breeds can produce an illegal "type" looking dog.Even KC Registerd Staffords have been caught up in the ass of a law we have,as Alison stated there is alot of controversy surrounding what consitutes a Pitt or Pitt Type.

Yes some people own the SBT,cosses and pitt types for one reason to add to their manhood,but those than own pitts (pure pitts) are usually extremely careful with there dogs,they don't like outsiders and I was asked a question a few months back I couldn't answer,it was when was the last time you heard about a proper fighting pitt attack a child or person,it had me totally stumped,because as I said they are very careful as not to draw attention to themselves or the dogs they keep.